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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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It was neat to be able to try my own prompts and get a sense of what the state of video generation was. But I certainly never generated something that I thought I got real value out of on its own merits, and I still don't understand why there was a social media component to the app.

They wanted network effects because ChatGPT was sorely lacking any.

I actually thought the Sora app was promising at launch, at least on paper, but it seems like they failed to keep people's attention long term. With the failure of Sora i don't think they have good options left.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#52
post #48
post #39

It feels like the bubble is starting to pop. A crisis of confidence is not something OAI can afford at this stage...

It's not because of the bubble. There is literally no advantage to generating slop videos. It looks cool for a while but no audience is going to consume such videos. Any platform which focusses on AI generated videos is doomed.

> no audience is going to consume such videos

sir, have you seen tiktok?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#53
post #48
post #39

It feels like the bubble is starting to pop. A crisis of confidence is not something OAI can afford at this stage...

It's not because of the bubble. There is literally no advantage to generating slop videos. It looks cool for a while but no audience is going to consume such videos. Any platform which focusses on AI generated videos is doomed.

So much for “replacing VFX artists”. It’s not necessarily a harbinger of doom for the AI industry, but this indicates that the most fervent AI boosters were dead wrong.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#55
post #49

Smart move. No clear path to growing meaningful revenue mixed with very expensive inference costs is not a good mix ahead of an IPO --- oh and not to mention competitors in TikTok and Instagram that are doing just fine.

Is it a smart move? Or just plainly obvious when Sora was probably hemorraghing money and had no future? A smarter move would have not to make this horrible product that no one wanted in the first place After placing my hand on the red-hot stove, aren't I super smart for now removing my hand?

Depends, did you also fire the people who told you not to do it, and layoff the people who reluctantly installed the stove and preheated it for you as part of your exciting stove-touching initiative?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#56
May be incompatible with OpenAI possibly becoming more PG-13 rated in the future?

I had thought this would be combined with OpenAI launching a set top box where you could talk to an AI avatar. Disney IP could have been skins to sell people for their AIs.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#58
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not because of the bubble. There is literally no advantage to generating slop videos. It looks cool for a while but no audience is going to consume such videos. Any platform which focusses on AI generated videos is doomed.

So much for “replacing VFX artists”. It’s not necessarily a harbinger of doom for the AI industry, but this indicates that the most fervent AI boosters were dead wrong.

It's more like the VFX market is too small for OpenAI to bother killing. They are only interested in business models that can justify a trillion dollar valuation.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#59
The only video generation tools showing any real progress or promise are world model-based. That's probably why they did this: either to refocus on coding/cowork type tools (less likely) or to devote that money and compute to building their answer to stuff like Project Genie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxkGdX4WIBE

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#60
post #4

I guess this is a bullish sign OpenAI has hired a lot of PMs from Google!

I'd wager that b2c projects former VP of Product at Instagram & CPO at OpenAI, Kevin Weil, may have championed are getting the boot with the company refocusing on making money under the stewardship of Fidji Simo: https://www.businessinsider.com/fidji-simo-openai-product-re...

Weil's now heading "AI for Science": https://www.pymnts.com/personnel/2025/openais-chief-product-...

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