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Re: Apple Business

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Post by p_ing »

dijit wrote: post #161
p_ing wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This ignores that Apple is unable to manufacture enough computers per year to be disruptive. 25m Macs in calendar year 2025. Lenovo manufactured 19m PCs in Q4 2025. Apple simply lacks volume.

Weird, never had an issue getting my hands on an Apple laptop of any desired configuration, even odd keyboard layouts for the region (UK and Sweden). Had plenty of issues getting specific specification Thinkpads: because they are largely sold through resellers and they don’t stock all SKUs I suppose.

No where did I say you can’t get a hold of one, I said they don’t have the volume. They’re behind Lenovo, HP, and Dell.

The x86 market is massive and dwarfs Apple’s Mac manufacturing.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by p_ing »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #162
p_ing wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This ignores that Apple is unable to manufacture enough computers per year to be disruptive. 25m Macs in calendar year 2025. Lenovo manufactured 19m PCs in Q4 2025. Apple simply lacks volume.

okay dude, how many phones did it manufacture in Q4 2025? 87m https://www.semiconductor-today.com/news_items/2026/mar/tern... do you think lenovo would rather manufacture 19m PCs or 87m phones? i don't know, you raise an interesting point that is wrong.

It looks like you have this discussion confused. This is about Macs, not phones.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by Henchman21 »

rconti wrote: post #110
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

They need to _commit_ to this, and execute, though. This feels very much like yet another half-hearted Apple initiative.

Everything is half-hearted from Apple since Steve died. He was the beating heart. Who has stepped into that role? Like for real? Anyone? I’m just not seeing it

Re: Apple Business

#174

Post by FinnKuhn »

tengbretson wrote: post #165
p_ing wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This ignores that Apple is unable to manufacture enough computers per year to be disruptive. 25m Macs in calendar year 2025. Lenovo manufactured 19m PCs in Q4 2025. Apple simply lacks volume.

I imagine the company that currently ships 250m iPhones a year can figure that part out.

Especially due to Apple having a lot less SKUs (compared to Lenovo) and having a lot more control over important parts such as CPUs.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by dijit »

p_ing wrote: post #171
dijit wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird, never had an issue getting my hands on an Apple laptop of any desired configuration, even odd keyboard layouts for the region (UK and Sweden). Had plenty of issues getting specific specification Thinkpads: because they are largely sold through resellers and they don’t stock all SKUs I suppose.

No where did I say you can’t get a hold of one, I said they don’t have the volume. They’re behind Lenovo, HP, and Dell. The x86 market is massive and dwarfs Apple’s Mac manufacturing.

I don’t buy this reasoning until there is evidence of orders going unfulfilled.

I could make 20M units of something and leave my resellers as bagholders who then have to sell years old hardware at a discount- and by the internal consistency of your logic: I would have the volumes.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by genthree »

selectively wrote: post #154
grumpyprole wrote: post #148

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Not always. There's no Minecraft for Mac, they even prohibited Macs running the iPad version. It's essentially been ported to Apples APIs but purposely withheld from macOS.

I'm talking about enterprise software, not games. Minecraft exists for Mac, grab the Java version.

Anyone on Bedrock Minecraft is probably there for the cross-platform multiplayer. The Java version doesn't substitute for that. (MS made Bedrock and Java incompatible so they can rent-seek on closed mod and server-hosting "marketplaces"; can't let people share things and have fun without paying a middleman after all, think of the wasted "productivity"!)

Re: Apple Business

#177

Post by mlsu »

p_ing wrote: post #171
dijit wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird, never had an issue getting my hands on an Apple laptop of any desired configuration, even odd keyboard layouts for the region (UK and Sweden). Had plenty of issues getting specific specification Thinkpads: because they are largely sold through resellers and they don’t stock all SKUs I suppose.

No where did I say you can’t get a hold of one, I said they don’t have the volume. They’re behind Lenovo, HP, and Dell. The x86 market is massive and dwarfs Apple’s Mac manufacturing.

Isn't this an artifact of the demand side and not the supply side?

Yes, apple shipped fewer laptops than dell in 2025. That's because Apple laptops started at $1100 in 2025.

They won't have a problem securing the chips for Mac Neo's, they're the same SOC as the iPhone. What, Apple is going to have an issue manufacturing a few million motherboards?

Re: Apple Business

#178

Post by john_strinlai »

martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

>I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

scared of what? microsoft doesnt need to care about new businesses with under 50 employees at all. they have governments, banks, universities, colleges, and large non-tech enterprises completely locked down. small business with 10-50 devices are a drop in the ocean.

>New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow.

i seriously doubt people outside of the tech or design spheres (i.e. most people) are going to go with apple for their businesses. when you are starting a business, you dont want to also have to teach all of your employees (and possibly yourself) how to use a new operating system.

you are going to look up "local IT company" or "local MSP", ask them to set you up, and they will integrate you into their existing microsoft ecosystem and send over some thinkpads, while you focus on your business.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by technothrasher »

moduspol wrote: post #103
monegator wrote: post #29

Will we be able to change our company details? A couple of years ago we changed the business name, so let's change it in the account for billing and such. Not possible. Ok, let's ask support what to do: the only thing we can do is create a new account, get the approval, etc. and then ask for a migration that may or may not be approved and may or may not end succesfully. In the end we keep receiving the bills in the o…

I'm called by a name that is not the same as my legal name. I somehow got an Apple Developer account during the first few years of it with my preferred name, but it had my parents' house as the mailing address. I was essentially told that I could update the mailing address but going through the steps for that process would result in the name on my account being changed to the legal name. And so today, it still has my…

I've still got a phantom child on my Apple account because when I tried to create a child's account many years ago for my son it somehow messed up and used the current year instead of his birth year. Support said too bad, no possible way to fix that. So I had to create another account for my real son, and while he grew up and moved out, my phantom son still lives with us for another nine years until it is old enough that I can delete it.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by gowld »

dfabulich wrote: post #97

Strategically, Apple's not setting themselves up for success here by giving Apple Business away for free (with paid per-user storage bumps). As a lot of people on this thread have pointed out, Apple's Business Manager needs a lot of improvements. ("Bring your own device" support is terrible, for example. Changing business names requires a perilous migration step. Support reps don't have the tools to fix serious issue…

Who would pay them for it before "developers fixed their stuff"?
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