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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by swasheck »

butILoveLife wrote: post #272
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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> happy to stop the freebies we give other nations.

but indignant when other nations return in kind.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by ogogmad »

inferniac wrote: post #287
reg_dunlop wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phrasing this as virtue signaling is a misnomer. I see it as an effort to divest themselves of moral inequity. And the result isn't the point: the effort and the reason for the effort, is. This is the first iteration/calibration of a more conscientious intention. When moral imperative is an unidentifiable road feature on the highway towards wherever the US is going...small efforts matter

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if a boycott is a virtue signal then your comment is a vice signal

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by lkey »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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People who don't believe in virtue see all virtuous acts as 'virtue signaling', or, a lie for attention.

You are showing us who you are and what you believe, but you are not describing the parent commenter.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by mentalgear »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

For Photos, consider Ente (e2ee).

Instead of Startpage, try DDG (DuckDuckGo) - been using it now for several years instead of Google as I found no difference in search quality.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by fmajid »

The EU is not a privacy and human rights panacea, as shown by the continuing efforts to impose Chat Control. Switzerland is no better.

Then again one of my wife’s friends is high up in the Canadian policy establishment and some of her positions on surveillance and political control over social media were chilling, and I assume widespread among the Five Eyes. Certainly the UK and Australia have deeply authoritarian policies far beyond even Trump’s wildest dreams.

Small countries like Iceland have enlightened policies but are vulnerable to coercion and in fact were militarily occupied during WW2.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by theshrike79 »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_AG

> Proton AG is a Swiss technology company offering privacy-focused online services and software. It is majority owned by the non-profit Proton Foundation.

So how is the US "controlling" Proton, can you enlighten us as you seem to be more knowledgeable about this?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by surgical_fire »

_osud wrote: post #254
surgical_fire wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment does not exist in a vacuum. It exists in a thread where the topic is, eminently, migrating away from US services to EU ones.

>The comment does not exist in a vacuum. It exists in a thread where the topic is, eminently, migrating away from US services to EU ones. Even then, there's no interesting conversation to be had unless we pretend it does.

I, and apparently many others in this thread, disagree.

I personally found some interesting comments here, including but not limited to services based off EU that I can use.

If you find it uninteresting, you should stop wasting your time in it and go do something more productive with your time.

Unless, of course, you just want to do some "concern trolling". You know, the "just asking questions" and "just noticing" behavior.

I'll be charitable and presume you are talking in this thread accidentally, and will find your way to more productive activities instead.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by _osud »

generic92034 wrote: post #305
_osud wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What you are claiming about European cops is also not uniformly true. A German police officer cannot "just" self-issue a search warrant. Yes. The more worrying situation is that Hungary can just decide that their police officers can self-issue search warrants, and then send those around the EU in the form of EIOs.

This is more of a theoretical concern, though.

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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by shikshake »

inferniac wrote: post #287
reg_dunlop wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phrasing this as virtue signaling is a misnomer. I see it as an effort to divest themselves of moral inequity. And the result isn't the point: the effort and the reason for the effort, is. This is the first iteration/calibration of a more conscientious intention. When moral imperative is an unidentifiable road feature on the highway towards wherever the US is going...small efforts matter

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Virtue signaling is the worst interpretation you can have of someone attempting to do better. If someone’s trying to make a small impact on the world, shouldn’t you encourage them instead of making fun and claiming they’re just doing it for looks?
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