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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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If I was outside of the US I would consider it as an effort to reduce risk, not virtue signaling.

If I was a citizen of a nation directly and recently threatened by the U.S I would consider it more as a "screw you" than virtue signaling.

This is probably because I am not especially caring about virtue, but I do like pointing out ways that alternate explanations for things some people might find virtuous could pertain.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by foldr »

_osud wrote: post #278
foldr wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a concerning trend of EIOs issued by Hungary being enforced in France and Germany? What would be an example of this?

This is the best I can give you off the top of my head, but look at which countries are the most active in eurojust :) https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/ar2020/data-annex An LLM can probably find some better links though.

I think you might be missing the ‘concerning’ part. Which specific cases are concerning? I don’t find it inherently concerning that people can’t escape justice by crossing the Hungarian border, Bonnie and Clyde style.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by thejohnconway »

butILoveLife wrote: post #272
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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Maybe Americans don't really get this, but the Greenland stuff was a very, very big deal. The rest of NATO was staring down the barrel of the unthinkable: war with the United States. For what? Some lib owning? A bit of fun? A real estate deal? The sense of betrayal is very strong, more than the politicians are letting on.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by johannes1234321 »

verisimi wrote: post #219
johannes1234321 wrote: post #200

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As EU citizen I at least got some influence into EU policy. A government far away doesn't even have to pretend to care about me.

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The EU has about 450 million citizens, which of course limits my direct vote. Downside of a democracy (EU is a complicated democracy, but still) is that a majority probably has other priorities than me.

However there are many ways to impact policy makers. From individual contact to impact on the public debate. Even a small post here may lead to people considering their vote or contacting a local or EU parliamentarian, which in sum pushes the needle. In the end they are receptive, as they need the votes by the people.

It's long and tedious and not all things go anywhere, but then again: I am just one in 450 millionand for most of those priority is to have a Job which pays the rent and food and thus I have to break it down to be relevant for them.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by generic92034 »

_osud wrote: post #292
generic92034 wrote: post #243

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With any number of intelligence services in the USA I would not really be calmed by the prospect that an ordinary cop cannot do that. What you are claiming about European cops is also not uniformly true. A German police officer cannot "just" self-issue a search warrant.

>What you are claiming about European cops is also not uniformly true. A German police officer cannot "just" self-issue a search warrant. Yes. The more worrying situation is that Hungary can just decide that their police officers can self-issue search warrants, and then send those around the EU in the form of EIOs.

This is more of a theoretical concern, though.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by kannanvijayan »

avazhi wrote: post #223
darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

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I assure you that many Canadians who are making these moves are emitting very little signal outside of their purchasing decisions.

This is not some end state of success, but a process. It's people sharing their ideas, thoughts, and strategies on how to accomplish a relatively challenging economic shift.

What you are witnessing and commenting on is quite literally the messy business of a market organically evolving and developing. "Not American" is now a selling point for services.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by s_dev »

Aurornis wrote: post #242
s_dev wrote: post #222

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>(though currently a little bit less marked) Again this is a false equivalence, 'a little less marked' isn't close to imparting the true state of things and to be honest a little disingenuous. The EU is not in full motion to dismantle democracy across her 27 states. The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy. So 'ah yes but Hungary' doesn't persuade me even though I'll co…

> The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy. I wish there was an easy way for me to bet against the imminent fall of the United States as predicted by so many internet commenters. I don’t like what the current administration is doing, either, but I would readily bet against all of these “the end is just around the corner” or “the empire is dying” takes in a heartbeat.

I didn't say the US is finished, I said it was finished as a liberal democracy.

It's already slid in to 'electoral democracy' instead of 'liberal democracy' the difference between the two is how 'rule of law' is prioritised and the balance between checks and balances between institutions is enforced.

https://www.v-dem.net/documents/60/V-dem-dr__2025_lowres.pdf

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by evnsio »

mads_quist wrote: post #275

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Just for completeness, both PagerDuty and incident.io offer EU hosting.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by _osud »

foldr wrote: post #302
_osud wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the best I can give you off the top of my head, but look at which countries are the most active in eurojust :) https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/ar2020/data-annex An LLM can probably find some better links though.

I think you might be missing the ‘concerning’ part. Which specific cases are concerning? I don’t find it inherently concerning that people can’t escape justice by crossing the Hungarian border, Bonnie and Clyde style.

Oh no, that's totally up to you. If you're happy with the courts in your country not being able to review the requests sent from Hungary, that's cool. Without transparent judicial review, how could we even know if the cases are concerning?

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by layer8 »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #3

Codeberg is only for FOSS projects. Is there some good European hosting provider for git? I really don't want to self host git.

Take a look at https://www.lcube-webhosting.de/en/svn-hosting-repositoryonl..., starts at 2.90 Euro. No personal experience, but the fact that they are still including SVN support tells you how long-established they are.

Google reviews: https://www.google.com/search?q=lcube&ludocid=91685905651961...

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