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Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by d0m »

SeanLuke wrote: post #25

Why is "p" a non-chorded letter? Clearly the other letters were chosen because they're the seven most common letters in the English language. But letter number 8 is "h", followed by "r". "p" is way down at #19. Is it just to maintain some semblance of compatibility with QWERTY? This seems short-sighted.

"semblance of compatibility with QWERTY"

Probably. I've went through the tutorial and particularly liked how it felt like qwerty even if it was very different at the same time.

You can say it's "short-sighted" but lots of amazing new keyboard layout were not adopted because it never went mainstream.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by cincinnatus »

breadbox wrote: post #21

My favorite part of the video is where they explain all the cool things you can do ... WITH A KEYBOARD. Seriously, though. I've experimented with chording keyboards in the past. Conceptually they're quite cool, but their advantages are outweighed by the finickiness of having to master a new set of split-second timing issues. I can only imagine having zero tactile feedback on top of all that. (And then opting for zero…

Try the demo for 10 minutes. Convinced me.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by cincinnatus »

SeanLuke wrote: post #25

Why is "p" a non-chorded letter? Clearly the other letters were chosen because they're the seven most common letters in the English language. But letter number 8 is "h", followed by "r". "p" is way down at #19. Is it just to maintain some semblance of compatibility with QWERTY? This seems short-sighted.

The learning curve is shockingly short to a semblance of utility because of this.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by pkamb »

People in this topic might be interested in a project of mine: one-handed typing using your existing two-handed muscle memory.

Basically the muscle memory you use to type "F" is the same as typing "J"; index finger, home row. Your left hand already has the muscle memory to type right-hand characters, and vice versa. Press the "mirrored" key with the other hand... your brain should be able to make this substitution almost automatically.

Add some software predictive text and you can suddenly type fast with one hand with hardly any learning. Especially good for temporary hand injuries.

Mac or PC: http://www.onehandkeyboard.org/download/

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by evoxed »

relic wrote: post #9
evoxed wrote: post #2

Direct link to the virtual keyboard trainer (set your input manager to US/qwerty first): http://asetniop.com/keyboardTutorial.html

Very cool, but the fact that the keyboard on the screen doesn't match the output (input?) nor the asetniop 'idea' makes it incredibly confusing and was enough for me to say 'ok, I'm done'. Unless it's just a problem that I'm experiencing, it doesn't seem like the author (or anyone) ever tested this tutorial out.

The demo could be done better for sure. A few steps in I think I encountered a bug that was chording keys that I was only pressing one at a time (forcing a backspace when I wanted the literal 'st').

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by epaik »

joe_the_user wrote: post #26

I think the ideal phone/tablet keyboard would be a "transparent" system based on holding the back of the screen (edit: no real estate lost and great ergonomics). Microsoft patented the idea a while back and among other sucky things about patents, they may simply not implementing it at all. http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/05/microsoft-invents-portable...

Interesting! This reminds me of the new Playstation Vita's rear touch sensor. I think it's definitely a step in the right direction of preserving screen estate for what its primary function should be.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by ansgri »

chj wrote: post #19

Looks awesome at the first sight. But then when you think harder, a big design flaw is that you need to put ten fingers on this keyboard to locate the keys correctly. You will have hard time use only one hand, let alone two fingers.

It's no design flaw, it's constraining your problem to find the most efficient solution within those constraints.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by goldfeld »

pkamb wrote: post #34

People in this topic might be interested in a project of mine: one-handed typing using your existing two-handed muscle memory. Basically the muscle memory you use to type "F" is the same as typing "J"; index finger, home row. Your left hand already has the muscle memory to type right-hand characters, and vice versa. Press the "mirrored" key with the other hand... your brain should be able to make this substitution al…

Sounds like really cool software! Is it agnostic of my keyboard layout? Dvorak user here.

That would mean I can not only freak out people that my keys don't type what they say, but that I only need one hand and somehow it works out what I want. People will surely take me for a con artist.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Post by pkamb »

goldfeld wrote: post #38
pkamb wrote: post #34

People in this topic might be interested in a project of mine: one-handed typing using your existing two-handed muscle memory. Basically the muscle memory you use to type "F" is the same as typing "J"; index finger, home row. Your left hand already has the muscle memory to type right-hand characters, and vice versa. Press the "mirrored" key with the other hand... your brain should be able to make this substitution al…

Sounds like really cool software! Is it agnostic of my keyboard layout? Dvorak user here. That would mean I can not only freak out people that my keys don't type what they say, but that I only need one hand and somehow it works out what I want. People will surely take me for a con artist.

I'm actually a Dvorak typist myself, so it definitely works! English dictionary and Qwerty/Dvorak layout only for now.
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