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Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

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Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#21
My favorite part of the video is where they explain all the cool things you can do ... WITH A KEYBOARD.

Seriously, though. I've experimented with chording keyboards in the past. Conceptually they're quite cool, but their advantages are outweighed by the finickiness of having to master a new set of split-second timing issues. I can only imagine having zero tactile feedback on top of all that. (And then opting for zero visual feedback as well?)

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#24
I love chord keyboards as a concept, but I've never committed to one because I've been wary of acquiring a skill on such a specific device, and then not having access to one unless I bring it with me. Making a chorded keyboard a software solution is very appealing for that reason, especially if ASETNIOP were to become a standard approach.

For what it's worth, the first mouse was intended to be used in conjunction with a chorded keyboard when Doug Engelbart invented it in 1963: http://dougengelbart.org/images/pix/img0030.jpg

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#25
Why is "p" a non-chorded letter? Clearly the other letters were chosen because they're the seven most common letters in the English language. But letter number 8 is "h", followed by "r". "p" is way down at #19. Is it just to maintain some semblance of compatibility with QWERTY? This seems short-sighted.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#26
I think the ideal phone/tablet keyboard would be a "transparent" system based on holding the back of the screen (edit: no real estate lost and great ergonomics).

Microsoft patented the idea a while back and among other sucky things about patents, they may simply not implementing it at all.

http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/05/microsoft-invents-portable...

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#27
post #6

The keyboard trainer seems to be slightly broken, ASET != ARST and NEIO != NIOP. I'm on Win7, Chrome 23 http://i.imgur.com/cdQdj.png

It's...the home row for Colemak: http://colemak.com/ At first I thought they somehow figured out how I remapped my keyboard, but it's still treated as qwerty.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#28
post #9
post #2

Direct link to the virtual keyboard trainer (set your input manager to US/qwerty first): http://asetniop.com/keyboardTutorial.html

Very cool, but the fact that the keyboard on the screen doesn't match the output (input?) nor the asetniop 'idea' makes it incredibly confusing and was enough for me to say 'ok, I'm done'. Unless it's just a problem that I'm experiencing, it doesn't seem like the author (or anyone) ever tested this tutorial out.

Press enter about 15 times to skip the first part of the tutorial. The labels in the later part are correct and also show the other secondary chorded keys.

Re: Ten Finger Touch Screen Keyboard

#30

Why is "p" a non-chorded letter? Clearly the other letters were chosen because they're the seven most common letters in the English language. But letter number 8 is "h", followed by "r". "p" is way down at #19. Is it just to maintain some semblance of compatibility with QWERTY? This seems short-sighted.

I think its very good that they kept the resemblance to QWERTY, even if it sacrifices small amount of speed. Steep learning curve is the biggest problem with these and if keeping the QWERTY compatibility helps I'm all for it. At least for me it seemed easier to learn because of it.
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