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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by dgroshev »

ribosometronome wrote: post #389
dgroshev wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an entirely delusional twitter-brain take. Despite its problems, the UK is still a sixth largest economy, a cultural powerhouse (how many Hollywood actors are British?), with a lot of soft power, a capable and currently renewed nuclear arsenal (Astraea and Dreadnought are on track), a globe-spanning network of alliances (from AUKUS to Japan deploying to the UK first time in their history to being one of the c…

>Despite its problems, the UK is still a sixth largest economy, ... Going from a shining city on a hill to a place where public executions by state backed paramilitaries are just another partisan talking point, that starts Special Military Operations with no plan or goal, that threatens to annex territory of its allies in about a year is an achievement. Why would you use the economy to defend the UK's status and then…

It's not "knocking the US", it's an example of the (likely, projected) decline. The size of the economy is an example of why "irrelevant" is delusional. Two different points.

The "prominent UK residents" don't "leave" the UK. Benedict Cumberbatch lives in London, despite constantly starring in Hollywood films. It's an example of the UK culturally punching way above its weight in proportion to its population.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by jwlake »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #229
EmbarrassedHelp wrote: post #184

Ofcom is currently threatening a Canadian forum that exists to help people with depression. Ofcom claims that geoblocking blocking the UK is "insufficient": > I've also gone back to Ofcom explicitly telling them the UK was now geoblocked (twice now) and I received a response that this was insufficient. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1rk690v/i_ru... Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply gl…

I think anyone running a website should avoid visiting the UK from now on.

Anyone owning 4chan should be very anonymous and only operate in a very friendly jurisdiction. Normal websites, no one cares.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by WastedCucumber »

andrewflnr wrote: post #348
philipov wrote: post #324

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> some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century. Which country do you believe could possibly qualify for such an impossible task?

One or more of the Nordics.

At first I took the comment about transferring nukes as a bit of a joke, but you make a fair point. Let Iceland have em!

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by nobodyandproud »

wisty wrote: post #373
EmbarrassedHelp wrote: post #184

Ofcom is currently threatening a Canadian forum that exists to help people with depression. Ofcom claims that geoblocking blocking the UK is "insufficient": > I've also gone back to Ofcom explicitly telling them the UK was now geoblocked (twice now) and I received a response that this was insufficient. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1rk690v/i_ru... Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply gl…

“Parliamentary supremacy means that Parliament can legislate for all persons and all places. If it enacts that smoking in the streets of Paris is an offence, then it is an offence.”(Ivor Jennings) It is also accepted that enforcement can be an issue if the law is an absurd overreach (like the UK criminalising smoking in the streets of Paris).

So, does a powerful foreign the UK and put the Parliament out of its misery?

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by falcor84 »

3rodents wrote: post #146
oliwarner wrote: post #140

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But if a Brit comes to your country and buys cocaine from you, in person, you wouldn't expect to be convicted as a dealer in the UK. Ofcom has a bad handle on web requests . Clients connect out. 4chan et al aren't pushing their services in anyone in the UK.

If we want to base the argument on technical nuance, 4chan are sending their packets to the U.K. just as the cocaine dealer would be sending packets (of cocaine) to their buyers in the U.K.

I would strongly disagree with that, in the sense of the layer of communication that 4chan operate at. I would argue that 4chan aren't sending packets to the UK any more than I'm currently sending my keystrokes to wherever you are reading this from - these actions are performed at a different layer.

If the UK wants to block packets from across the pond, they should (but I hope they don't) do it via a Great Firewall, rather than expecting random foreign websites to do it for them.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by wolvoleo »

urbandw311er wrote: post #354
observationist wrote: post #318

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Not so slowly. They've gone from a more or less respectable smaller country to more or less politically, culturally, and economically irrelevant in less than 10 years. I even question whether it's rational to allow them to have nukes; they should probably be required to give them up to some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century.

It’s kind of sad to read your arrogant and xenophobic rantings. I’m not sure you’re really down for the sort of inclusive and open minded discussion that normally takes place here.

I would normally agree but if you see Brexit and the kind of "people" that are getting ready to take over power (Reform UK), I do have to say I understand some of this sentiment.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by epolanski »

dmitrygr wrote: post #398
epolanski wrote: post #388

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Or one can say enough and decide to cut off doing business in or with US.

Not a realistic option in today's world, sorry. I can suggest some literature

You don't need to, I have worked with multiple clients that faced this very option.

And yes, the choice was still to do business with US in every case, but I can tell you 100% it was far from a crystal clear easy decision and that the camel is breaking.

You can only push so much.

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Post by 2postsperday »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #315
wao0uuno wrote: post #258

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4chan is probably one of the least brain damaging sites kids can go to these days. It has porn and stupid memes, true. But so does google if you turn the safe search off. It's the corporate run sites and services with ai powered recommendation engines that are the most problematic. Infinite scroll sites like reddit or tiktok are what really fucks up your brain. I used to frequent 4chan as a kid back in the day when i…

I agree with you about infinite scroll. I don't know you so i couldn't possibly comment on your other claim...

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Post by epolanski »

troad wrote: post #396
epolanski wrote: post #392

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> What were these 'several countries'? Iran? Cuba? North Korea? It doesn't matter which those were, we were obliged to respect laws of the European country we were incorporated, not US ones.

You're serving US customers. You are doing business in the US, and therefore you are subject to US law. What about when a customer requests a refund, do you just pretend US consumer protection laws don't apply to that customer? Or to turn your logic around, can American corporations do business in Europe while just completely ignoring the GDPR and all other European laws? Laws are not a buffet. You choose to do busin…

Except that the hint was for criminal charges, not lack of business :)
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