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Piss off with that antisemitism. Absolutely cringe.
Astral to Join OpenAI
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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#732I think it’s impossible to predict what will happen with this new trend of “large AI company acquires company making popular open source project”. The pessimist in me says that these products will either be enshittified over time, killed when the bubble bursts, or both. The pragmatist in me hopes that no matter what happens, uv and ruff will survive just like how many OSS projects have been forked or spun out of big…
It’s open source. If you want it to go in a different direction fork it and take it in that direction. Instead of the optimist, the pessimist, and the pragmatist the guy you need is the chap who does some work.
And which one are you again? The least useful of them all.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#733will private packages hosted on pyx be available for openai to use as training data?
Dude, no. That’s not how licenses work. That’s absurd. You really think that whatever little code is in pyx is providing any material training edge over the code that OpenAI already has access to? Get off it.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#734This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!
Does OpenAI use a lot of python? There is the literal benefit of "we use the hell out of this tool, we need to make sure it stays usable for us" and then there is what they can learn from or coerce the community in to doing.
Yeah, it’s all mostly heaps of Python internally aside from Codex.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#735I see people in this thread complain about the acquisition but the source code of uv is right there [1]. Fork it and move on. If ClosedAI enshittifies uv, gather with a bunch of other people and prop up a new version. [1] https://github.com/astral-sh/uv
No, you.
These comments are so silly and condescending. You aren’t being clever or smart. You think that you need to go to GitHub and find the repo for uv and put it in a little footnote? You think that you’re being a clever boy by doing that? Everyone knows how open source works. We are developers.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#736A concern: More and more plainly, OpenAI and Anthropic are making plays to own (and lease) the "means of production" in software. OK - I'm a pretty happy renter right now. As they gobble up previously open software stacks, how viable is it that these stacks remain open? It seems perfectly sensible to me that these providers and their users alike have an interest in further centralizing the dev lifecycle - eg, if Clau…
It's not any different from the launch of the FSF. There's a simple solution. If you don't want your lunch eaten by a private equity firm, make sure whatever tool you use is GPL licensed.
Since when has GPL stopped any company from doing so? I'd genuinely be happy to hear of a single time someone was actually pressed about their GPL compliance after FSF v. Cisco, it's like some immaterial sword of Damocles, the entire weight of which is the shame of losing face, which is fleeting in a society post-appeal-to-authority.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#737Earlier quoted context omitted.
These tools are open source, if they lock them down the community will just fork them.
Nice idea in theory, in practice is how many folks down in Nebraska are going to show up.
isn't that's the point of open source software? like when Oracle bought Sun. someone forked mysql and created mariadb.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#738Earlier quoted context omitted.
uv solved it, it will be the only tool people use in 2 more years. if you’re a python shop / expert then you can do pip etc but uv turned incidental python + deps from a huge PITA for the rest of us, to It Just Works simplicity on the same level or better than Golang.
I don't want software on my computer, that just downloads and installs random stuff. This is the job of the OS in particular the package manager.
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#739Earlier quoted context omitted.
Private package hosting sounds like a commodity that would be hard to differentiate.
It's also a crowded and super mature space space between JFrog (Artifactory) and Sonatype (Nexus). They already support private PyPI repositories and are super locked in at pretty much every enterprise-level company out there.
There’s always room for improvement…
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#740Well, that's the first shoe dropping. Thankfully uv and ruff are MIT licensed and in a good place, so worst comes to worst...