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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by input_sh »

closewith wrote: post #380
input_sh wrote: post #167

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I'd suggest you read the article or the Bluesky thread.

I did and it is 100% consistent with my comment. Nice sounds and token troop movements, but absolutely no commitment to fight, which simply wouldn't have happened.

Okay, how do you know? Let's go through this step-by-step, in your opinion, what's the difference between a real commitment and a not-real commitment that you can point to before there's a meaningful-enough emergency to make you show your cards? What would be a non-token amount of troops?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by terminalshort »

chneu wrote: post #372
terminalshort wrote: post #226

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> There’s probably a huge case for corruption Yes > And of course he can be declared national threat and foreign agent There is no evidence of that he is a foreign agent and there is no legal procedure (nor should there be) for declaring someone a "national threat." > When there’s choice between the bad (block Trump and allies) and the worse (his ideas stay alive even if he is no longer in business) This is inevitabl…

There is absolutely evidence he is a foreign agent. He is likely too stupid to realize it, tho. Israel and Russia both have paper trails on him going back decades. People around trump and his businesses have deep ties to russia and that isnt private. His own sons have bragged about being close to russia. Oh, plus the eastern european wife. This isnt a conspiracy. Epstein was an israeli agent and him and trump were bf…

You can't be an agent without realizing it and you don't get to call me silly when you list having a foreign wife as evidence that someone is a foreign agent.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by ifwinterco »

jacquesm wrote: post #389
ifwinterco wrote: post #272

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The French took basically the exact opposite approach to the British in terms of post-WW2 foreign policy. I think partly because of the shared language British elites were able to convince themselves that the US is just like us, and the so called "special relationship" sort of preserved British power albeit as an extremely junior partner riding on the coattails of the US. With the French there was no such delusion an…

All this is very funny if you take into account how the United States originated.

What's going on right now makes a lot more sense when you consider that what's now the US was populated not so much by people of English descent, but specifically super religious Protestants who were often causing trouble.

Part of the solution to Europe's wars of religion was to pack off some of the most swivel-eyed ones to the new world to let them build their New Jerusalem there, and it worked for a bit

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

lnsru wrote: post #92
jjtwixman wrote: post #34

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Yeah the US we knew is gone. I think about this sometimes when I am listening to American music from the 20th century, how much soft power they had, how great they made America sound either directly or indirectly. That America that we all looked up to and admired is gone. Pity.

I am the guy who participated in Green Card lottery for few years willing to work in most advanced planet‘s semiconductor companies. I changed my mind recently. Speedboat ambushes, Greenland, public executions by ICE „officers“ and now Iran war. US I knew is definitely gone. That’s not the country sharing culture and values peacefully anymore: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika-Haus_(M%C3%BCnchen)

The only one of those that's really new is Greenland.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by tim333 »

throwa356262 wrote: post #2

Those Danes should study the Falklands war. Using F35 in this situation is like brining in a billion dollar paperweight to the battle.s

I'm not sure what lesson they are supposed to learn from the Falklands. It was somewhat swung when we sank the Belgrano using a nuclear sub.

Sometimes these billion dollar high tech things work.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by terminalshort »

jacquesm wrote: post #409
terminalshort wrote: post #395

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US law, which is the only relevant law to discuss the actions of the president of the US.

I already had you labeled as a climate denier and a troll, now I'll have to add one more item.

Add what you like. I can't possibly take anyone who uses the term "climate denier" seriously.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by cbHXBY1D »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #422
cbHXBY1D wrote: post #418

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We need a Nuremberg trial for the genocide in Gaza, the ethnic cleansing in Lebanon, the ethnic cleansing in the West Bank, and the illegal attacks on 7 countries in the Middle East. We need to prosecute both the Biden and Trump administration, the Israeli leadership, and the leadership of most European countries. Never again is never again.

If so, then also do the leadership of Hamas, Putin, etc. The US is not uniquely evil.

What Israel and the USA is doing in the ME is uniquely evil. There are likely hundreds of thousands dead in Gaza. Children intentionally killed by snipers, famine as a tool of war, the displacement of millions of people.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by terminalshort »

bdangubic wrote: post #401
terminalshort wrote: post #395

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US law, which is the only relevant law to discuss the actions of the president of the US.

Under which "law" is President allowed legally to start a War - citation needed :)

It's been the established president since the Korean War when the US began ignoring the constitutional provision that gave congress the power to declare war. Additional examples are the Vietnam War, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq I & II, the Libyan regime change, and the current Iran conflict, and there are plenty more. The written law still states that the president does not have this power, but the actual unwritten law has been that he can. And that is the only law that matters.

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Post by Tadpole9181 »

nickdothutton wrote: post #233

I think there is a pretty good chance US is in the late empire phase. This is not about a single President or party, or even single geopolitical event/development.

I'm sorry, this is just Republican apologetics. This is about a single party. How in the world could you possibly suggest otherwise?

I'd love to hear how Biden, Obama, or Clinton got us into forever wars. Or how they threatened allies. Or how they destroyed our trade or deal-making reputation. Where are the Democrat newscasters saying we should invade Canada? The figure heads calling for internment camps?

Are we all affected? Sure. Does everybody in the world view us through the lens of our worst (people/behavior)? Of course. But it IS about a single party on every. single. issue.

If the Democrats were to regain control and we had public trials for all involved for war crimes, constitutional violations, etc, it would do a lot to fix the damage. Not pretending it would all go away, but actually holding the one party accountable would help because everyone on the planet knows who is responsible.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by closewith »

input_sh wrote: post #431
closewith wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did and it is 100% consistent with my comment. Nice sounds and token troop movements, but absolutely no commitment to fight, which simply wouldn't have happened.

Okay, how do you know? Let's go through this step-by-step, in your opinion, what's the difference between a real commitment and a not-real commitment that you can point to before there's a meaningful-enough emergency to make you show your cards? What would be a non-token amount of troops?

There is no appetite for war in Europe, zero. The Danes know it, the French know it, the US knows it. Every analyst knows it.

The idea that France was going to engage in armed conflict with the US over Greenland is absurd. The US could probably take Saint Pierre and Miquelon or French Guiana without triggering a French armed response.

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