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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by Detrytus »

terminalshort wrote: post #213
_bohm wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting illegal wars and engaging in extreme corruption, for starters.

The war isn't illegal. The president has that power. I don't like it either, but since the Korean War this is simply a statement of fact.

US constitution says that starting a war must be authorized by Congress, president has no authority to do it on his own.

The problem is: over time the US grew so powerful, that the definition of "war" became blurry. "No, we are not at war, our soldiers are just dropping bombs on Iran for fun and profit".

EDIT: Another problem, of course, is that current member of Congress have no balls to stand up to Trump and reclaim their constitutional powers.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

torginus wrote: post #243

The F-35 is mentioned in the article as being readied for the defense of Greenland. I wonder what the 'easter-eggs' Danes would've found out about it if they went up against the US. (I think I know, it has to do with how its 'stealth' works.)

In a way that would be great. Then we could grow up a little bit faster.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by bko »

phkahler wrote: post #326
bko wrote: post #264

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What does post-USA world mean? Who is the leader in culture, business, technology? The only other contender I can think of is China. And this is better?

>> What does post-USA world mean? >> Who is the leader in culture, business, technology? The only other contender I can think of is China. >> And this is better? Who says you need a leader in each of those? Maybe it's post-centralization, or in other words decentralization which people have been wanting for the internet for a while now.

Goes against pretty much all of history. I guarantee you the Chinese officials dont think this way and if your head is in the sand and its up for grabs they will grab it. They exert influence on geopolitics heavily and think in centuries rather than political cycles. Who owns AI and social media/tech will basically excert their values on the worlf

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

simonsarris wrote: post #355

Where was this kind of movement when Russia invaded Europe in 2022? I think Europe's inaction in 2022 will go down as the greatest moral failing of the century. You can't say "they didn't act because Russia is a nuclear power" - the same is true here.

Not everybody can be painted with the 'inaction' label, there are plenty of people that are doing a lot of good work.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by velancogito »

originalvichy wrote: post #116
matsemann wrote: post #7

Russia's invasion ironically strengthened NATO, with more countries joining or feeling the usefulness of it. Somehow the US managed to break down all that good will in such a short amount of time.. I think it's hard to overstate how much more hostile people look at the US the last few years. So much soft power has been lost.

Covid, Russia and the axis of US+Israel has done massive damage to the European psyche. Covid showed us how economically dependent we are to major manufacturing countries like China. Paper money != ability to manufacture. Russia broke any notion of peace that can be funded by cheap energy. It will always be a tool used against you, and Russia will not change. The axis of US+Israel is breaking down the international s…

I could be wrong, but I've experienced the opposite. Seeing Putin and Trump openly undermine and threaten the EU forced countries to address the situation and take action. It's encouraging. I'm looking at this situation from Hungary tho, where Russian influence began 10–16 years ago. It seems Hungary has a chance to get rid of Orbán, and the rest of Europe is also taking measures finally. It's nice.

The war in Ukraine is literally at the EU's border. It could be destabilizing in many ways. It's not just about moral reasons. By the way, I see similarities between Putin and Trump as they both started wars against big countries without thinking ahead more than three days. It's one more reason to strengthen the EU.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by vrganj »

terminalshort wrote: post #393
vrganj wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The president of the US does not have the power to start a war without getting it approved by the UN security council. You're arguing internal implementation details, but the legality is not determined by your courts.

I care less about what the UN says is legal than I do the local traffic cop

International law is not about what you care about. It just is. If you break it by starting a war, then it is an illegal war, ad definitionem.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by FpUser »

terminalshort wrote: post #213
_bohm wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting illegal wars and engaging in extreme corruption, for starters.

The war isn't illegal. The president has that power. I don't like it either, but since the Korean War this is simply a statement of fact.

>"The war isn't illegal. The president has that power"

Well you can say the same about Putin then. All nice and dandy

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by cbHXBY1D »

srean wrote: post #170
empath75 wrote: post #12

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The only way the US can fix our reputation will be to try and imprison our current leadership after they are eventually removed from power. And in particular, the Trump family needs to have all of its assets seized.

Nuremberg style judicial proceedings. Not necessarily with similar judicial executions. Fair trials and fair and exemplary punitive measures would be enough for me. I lost respect when Obama let Bush Jr administration off the hook. It essentially set the tone that it is ok to behave like that, that there would be no consequences.

We need a Nuremberg trial for the genocide in Gaza, the ethnic cleansing in Lebanon, the ethnic cleansing in the West Bank, and the illegal attacks on 7 countries in the Middle East.

We need to prosecute both the Biden and Trump administration, the Israeli leadership, and the leadership of most European countries. Never again is never again.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by hmm37 »

srean wrote: post #339
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #321

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You get downvotes, but even if China is an authoritarian oppressive regime, they are not going around starting wars and threatening their allies, changing directions daily.

I am not Chinese. In fact we feel threatened by China. However, if China does come to occupy a majorly influential seat at the table it will not be the for the first time. The last time it did, it did not impose it's will beyond its boundaries. It is to be seen whether that repeats.

Generally, historically it didn't because of what happened during the Sui Dynasty, which was short lived. The lessons from that period is still fairly engrained in the mindsets of Chinese people.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by cindyllm »

chneu wrote: post #364
Vaslo wrote: post #357

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As an American, can’t say I’m too worried about Canadian opinion of us, let alone Denmark. Most Americans don’t know the name of a single politician in Denmark.

Most Americans also dont know that most of the world is laughing at us. Americans are oblivious by choice cuz we pretty eagerly consume misinformation, always have. We love our alternate histories that make us feel superior.

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