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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #3

This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

Isn't this something to do with their paid pyx(as opposed to ty/ruff etc) thingy?

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mindshare and a central piece of the python package management ecosystem.

Most popular product on the planet acquires a random python packaging org for mindshare? What am I not seeing here?

What you're not seeing, edited inline, is:

Not-most popular LLM software development product on the planet acquires most popular/rapidly rising python packaging org for mindshare.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#134
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As good as the team is, that's not what they're buying in this case.

What are they buying?

> Second, to our investors, especially Casey Aylward from Accel, who led our Seed and Series A, and Jennifer Li from Andreessen Horowitz, who led our Series B

They are buying out investors, it's like musical chairs.

The liquidity is going to be better on OpenAI, so it pleases everyone (less pressure from investors, more liquidity for investors).

The acquisition is just a collateral effect.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#135
post #3

This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

I mean they are “startups” on the way to mega-companies. They need internal tooling to match.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#136
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never adopted them, keep using mostly Python written stuff. Either pay for the product, or use stuff that isn't dependent on VC money, this is always how it ends.

There are ways to independently fund open source projects, though. I have previously contributed to the Python Software Foundation and to individual open source maintainers through GitHub donations (which are not dependent on GitHub, as there are many alternatives). Projects like the Linux Foundation exist, too. And government funding, especially for scientific endeavors or where software is used to fulfill critical…

Which is why I mentioned "....use stuff that isn't dependent on VC money...".

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#137
post #16

I like uv, but not sure this is a good path forward for the python ecosystem.

why? lot's of good work came to Python by people who were sponsored by big tech companies. make Python better for them, and for a lot of other people too. (sure, it's a bit different than contributing to CPython, but I'd argue not that different)

It is VERY different. One company now has complete control of the activities of the team developing these tools. Contributing to Python (money or time) gets you some influence, but doesn't allow you to dictate anything - there's still a team making the decisions.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#139

I think it’s impossible to predict what will happen with this new trend of “large AI company acquires company making popular open source project”. The pessimist in me says that these products will either be enshittified over time, killed when the bubble bursts, or both. The pragmatist in me hopes that no matter what happens, uv and ruff will survive just like how many OSS projects have been forked or spun out of big…

It’s open source. If you want it to go in a different direction fork it and take it in that direction. Instead of the optimist, the pessimist, and the pragmatist the guy you need is the chap who does some work.
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