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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> As a source puts it, the French said: "Would you like more soldiers? You could have them. Would you like more naval support? You could have that. Would you like more air support? You could have that too." Thank God for the French. I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world, but turns out they were right along. Europe can't trust any outside powers. Any external depen…

> I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world There is very good reasons why De Gaulle was always a bit doubtful about American military protection and why post-war France put a strong emphasis on military sovereignty. That has nothing to do with any French stubbornness or a so called French anti-American feeling. The main reason is that De Gaulle experienced the fact A…

You can always trust americans to do the right thing after we have tried everything else.

Never trust america unless our last option is the one you want. Otherwise, let us stubbornly do it wrong until we come around.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> That would be so funny if it wasn't clear that you are serious. Sure ok - tell me what I'm missing. > Why don't you tell us? Are you unaware that Apple designs the MacBook and A/M series chips?

Are you unaware that Ikea is Swedish and that the ARM comes from a long line of UK products?

> Ikea (Denmark) desk

I was just going off what you wrote. I buy locally handmade furniture and haven't bought anything from Ikea since college. Anyway, Sweden doesn't build all of this stuff either.

> ARM comes from a long line of UK products?

Again, global supply chains when it's convenient for your argument.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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So is the idea that the US would start bombing Iran without a plan, goal, or any thought to the consequences, yet here we are...

There is a difference, basically the entire world hates the Iranian regime and wants them gone, USA bombing the Iranian regime wont get that much pushback from the world even if the war was started in an underhanded way. It is entirely different if USA starts attacking NATO allies such as Denmark which isn't a threat or problem to anyone, that is not something anybody would expect and it would ruin American diplomacy…

Does US care about diplomacy anymore ?

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Much better. China is far more reliable and dependable than dealing with a lying narcissistic paedophile and his cronies.

Careful what you wish for, their History revisionism is remarkable and soon you'd find a narrative preaching that Western culture was all made up (in part by the usual suspects), not even the Holocaust will survive - just follow some social media trends and you'll see what's already happening.

> not even the Holocaust will survive

Which one ?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> What power has the US ceded? Seriously? You live in a multi-polar world, there are three major power blocks and Europe isn't one of them, though that may change now (we're sick of war, but we're also sick of the threat of war, which one of the two will win out is up for grabs). There is - or rather, was, by now - Russia, China and the USA. Russia is unacceptable for many reasons, China is too clever for its own goo…

> You live in a multi-polar world, there are three major power blocks and Europe isn't one of them, though that may change now (we're sick of war, but we're also sick of the threat of war, which one of the two will win out is up for grabs). There is - or rather, was, by now - Russia, China and the USA. Russia is unacceptable for many reasons, China is too clever for its own good in the longer term and the United Stat…

What soft power is the Chinese capitalizing on?

https://cdn.ihsmarkit.com/www/images/0421/mapoverviewofchine...

https://africacenter.org/spotlight/china-port-development-af...

Two maps that show a small selection of Chinese infrastructure projects in Africa. See all those harbours?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power_of_China

For example, one-third of the top 100 mobile games in Japan currently come from China.[20]

I'm short on time right now, so no more examples.

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Please lessen the snark and dictate what you're saying here. Sources to published docs would be even more preferable.

I'm not going to serialize the past 60 years of US foreign policy in to a pithy post on a meaningless internet forum. For free.

Well, thanks anyway.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world There is very good reasons why De Gaulle was always a bit doubtful about American military protection and why post-war France put a strong emphasis on military sovereignty. That has nothing to do with any French stubbornness or a so called French anti-American feeling. The main reason is that De Gaulle experienced the fact A…

You can always trust americans to do the right thing after we have tried everything else. Never trust america unless our last option is the one you want. Otherwise, let us stubbornly do it wrong until we come around.

I can't wait.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> As a source puts it, the French said: "Would you like more soldiers? You could have them. Would you like more naval support? You could have that. Would you like more air support? You could have that too." Thank God for the French. I long thought their strong Gaullist stance on sovereignty was a bit silly in today's world, but turns out they were right along. Europe can't trust any outside powers. Any external depen…

The French took basically the exact opposite approach to the British in terms of post-WW2 foreign policy. I think partly because of the shared language British elites were able to convince themselves that the US is just like us, and the so called "special relationship" sort of preserved British power albeit as an extremely junior partner riding on the coattails of the US. With the French there was no such delusion an…

All this is very funny if you take into account how the United States originated.

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History shows that Europe can't trust any inside powers either...

pre-EU history shows that, which is why we founded the EU in the first place. To quote one of our founding fathers, Robert Schuman, the point of tightly interweaving our economies this way is to "make war not only unthinkable, but materially impossible"

Sounds kinda like why they founded the League of Nations
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