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Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by kmfrk »

gozmike wrote: post #68
photomatt wrote: post #61

I really like some of the things John has done in his mockups here, especially on the write screen, and contrary to what he thinks ideas like this are more than welcome in the WordPress community. (For example check out the dramatically revamped media or the dozens of eliminated options in trunk right now.) The one big mistake in his premise, however, is that only 34% of WordPress users are blogging, the actual perce…

Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble? As a huge fan of the WordPress community and what the software and platform has empowered, I'm seeing a decreasing amount of interest in blogging as my social network turns toward meme-sharing and 140-character quips simply because they're much more conducive to consumption and sharing on mobile. It's so bad that there…

Especially when you consider that there are people whose only viewport is mobile devices.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by wmeredith »

tibbon wrote: post #76
wmeredith wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure the, 'hand-crafted-web' look is going to require deep CSS and HTML diving anyway you slice it.

True. Perhaps a Wordpress varient would allow for per-post CSS files. I haven't touched WP in a few years; does it have the equivalent of the Rails Asset Pipeline yet?

I don't know much of anything about Rails.

As for the per-post CSS files it would be easy to do with a Posts custom field. You could take text input (CSS) and spit it out in the header using a basic query on the current post.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by sergiotapia »

I'd love for a blogging platform that let me use custom CSS, Markdown (because I post code all the time on my blog) and free hosting.

Where is something like that?

Wordpress, atrocious code support. Jekyll, too much configuration. I don't want to learn Jekyll I just want to post code.

Where is the middle ground for people like me? Sounds like this hypothetical "Ghost" is just what I'm looking for. Now if someone could build it...

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by johnonolan »

photomatt wrote: post #61

I really like some of the things John has done in his mockups here, especially on the write screen, and contrary to what he thinks ideas like this are more than welcome in the WordPress community. (For example check out the dramatically revamped media or the dozens of eliminated options in trunk right now.) The one big mistake in his premise, however, is that only 34% of WordPress users are blogging, the actual perce…

Thanks Matt - I don't necessarily doubt that WordPress users are blogging, it's just that WordPress(.org) isn't focused on those users any more.

That's fine, as mentioned in the post, but there is a reason that Svbtle (etc) is suddenly the flavour of the month, and it's not just cause Dustin is the coolest kid in San Fran.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by knes »

I hate you a little bit. I read the whole website and started looking for a download/signup link until I found out it is just a prototype, I'm very sad now. :(

HOWEVER, your idea / prototype / concept looks awesome and it is something I have been waiting for!

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by drivingmenuts »

mosselman wrote: post #67
huskyr wrote: post #53

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Sure, you're right. But i suspect that 95% of all WP installs are by non-techies on shared hosting, that very rarely have Rails or Python support.

Yes thats the way to create great new products. Make it easy for non-techies to get them up and running and make sure they run on shared hosting and are created in a language that beginners use to learn about programming.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, so I'll just assume the worst.

Yes, it is - there's a lot more non-techies than there are of the other kind, so it makes sense that you focus your efforts on the larger market.

As for the whole "language that beginners use to learn about programming", do you mean Python or Java? PHP is everywhere but the last I checked, Python and Java are the teaching and taught languages.

PHP itself is designed to get things done, not necessarily elegantly. For all it's problems, it is a workhorse and blaming the language for what the users have done is just wrong. Programming languages are like hammers and should not prevent one from doing something stupid or irresponsible. Doing the smart or right thing is the responsibility of the user.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by benackles »

His argument about "No Corporate Arm of The Law" seems a little flawed. He compares WordPress to Mozilla and argues that Ghost will be more like Mozilla. Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit arm of Mozilla Foundation. They are nearly identical to the relationship between WordPress Foundation and Automattic inc. Each companies corporate arm generates revenue and reinvests those dollars and development resources back into their open source projects. This is the reason WordPress and FireFox have been such successful open source projects. They have the right balance of leadership, resources and community involvement.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by Karunamon »

izad wrote: post #80
Karunamon wrote: post #47

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Newer languages aren't? Every linux distro that matters (including BSD, Gentoo, and others with a ports system), heck even Windows, has a full Rails stack that's about two commands away from being fully set up. Unless I misunderstood what you mean, here :)

What are those two commands?

    apt-get/yum install ruby rubygems
    gem install rails

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by gozmike »

kayoone wrote: post #78
gozmike wrote: post #68

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Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble? As a huge fan of the WordPress community and what the software and platform has empowered, I'm seeing a decreasing amount of interest in blogging as my social network turns toward meme-sharing and 140-character quips simply because they're much more conducive to consumption and sharing on mobile. It's so bad that there…

agree, you can also clearly see this in how platforms like tumblr have "evolved" to be peoples place to share short attention-span stuff. Blogging is becoming more of a mixture of FB feeds/twitter for most people.

this saddens me.

the promise of blogging for me has always been the ability to have my own printing press and know that nearly everyone else in the world had access to one as well.

i'm still trying to understand how this "evolution" has actually decreased the quality of communication.

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