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Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by bergie »

Karunamon wrote: post #47
bergie wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PHP has the big benefit of being deployable anywhere. Without that fact it is unlikely that projects like Drupal or WordPress would've taken off as they have.

Newer languages aren't? Every linux distro that matters (including BSD, Gentoo, and others with a ports system), heck even Windows, has a full Rails stack that's about two commands away from being fully set up. Unless I misunderstood what you mean, here :)

I meant being able to drop the application files to almost any web server (including cheap hosting providers) and just have it run

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by photomatt »

gozmike wrote: post #68
photomatt wrote: post #61

I really like some of the things John has done in his mockups here, especially on the write screen, and contrary to what he thinks ideas like this are more than welcome in the WordPress community. (For example check out the dramatically revamped media or the dozens of eliminated options in trunk right now.) The one big mistake in his premise, however, is that only 34% of WordPress users are blogging, the actual perce…

Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble? As a huge fan of the WordPress community and what the software and platform has empowered, I'm seeing a decreasing amount of interest in blogging as my social network turns toward meme-sharing and 140-character quips simply because they're much more conducive to consumption and sharing on mobile. It's so bad that there…

> Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble?

I would 100% agree with that.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by [deleted] »

gozmike wrote: post #68
photomatt wrote: post #61

I really like some of the things John has done in his mockups here, especially on the write screen, and contrary to what he thinks ideas like this are more than welcome in the WordPress community. (For example check out the dramatically revamped media or the dozens of eliminated options in trunk right now.) The one big mistake in his premise, however, is that only 34% of WordPress users are blogging, the actual perce…

Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble? As a huge fan of the WordPress community and what the software and platform has empowered, I'm seeing a decreasing amount of interest in blogging as my social network turns toward meme-sharing and 140-character quips simply because they're much more conducive to consumption and sharing on mobile. It's so bad that there…

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Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by FuzzyDunlop »

tsewlliw wrote: post #44
agumonkey wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used the sociable plugin (like/tweet/+1 buttons). Out of extremism I tested under elinks, saw some weird empty ul/li hanging around, inspected the plugin config and then went into the code. The latest release at the time was barely beta code, large spans of deadcode, copy/pasted pages-long loops that were 90% similar. Wordpress plugin pages quote millions of download for this plugin. Who needs quality ?

(100% totally non sarcastic here) This is what I love about PHP devs. Imagine how much effort it was to write that. The author may not have have the chops to refactor that into something elegant, but he wanted it done and was perfectly willing to just do it the hard way and FUCKING SHIP IT, warts and all. Its easy to laugh at code after the fact, but you can't argue that a ton of people aren't finding the author's wo…

I think there's a false logic present in arguing that "lots of people use it, so it's ok even if it's shit." Apply this same argument to one of several poorly coded plugins that have introduced basic security vulnerabilities and had widespread adoption. I think this is even worse when there's no commitment to improving it.

I find it curious we don't necessarily aspire to quality; and I think we should. I'm not happy just FUCKING SHIPPING IT.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by _b8r0 »

It looks really nice and I'd look into it if it existed, but it doesn't. Is there some sort of trend rising in putting mockups of vapourware?

I really like the split screen and markdown support. That would definitely get my interest. But please, ship 0.1 and let us know, don't tease us with vapourware.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by tibbon »

wmeredith wrote: post #63
tibbon wrote: post #36

This proposal makes many good points. If I were rewriting Wordpress, here's what I'd think of: - Seriously consider redesigning the logical layout of the software. Some sort of rough MVC-ish pattern would be a huge improvement over the 'loop' in Wordpress which is almost impossible to deal with. - I personally dislike PHP, but I do see its benefits in deployment. - Make it easy to make beautiful typographic layouts.…

I'm pretty sure the, 'hand-crafted-web' look is going to require deep CSS and HTML diving anyway you slice it.

True. Perhaps a Wordpress varient would allow for per-post CSS files.

I haven't touched WP in a few years; does it have the equivalent of the Rails Asset Pipeline yet?

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by kmfrk »

anatoli wrote: post #51
JimWestergren wrote: post #41

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I prefer Yahoo! YSlow Smush.it [1] which does this for you online. [1] http://www.smushit.com/ysmush.it/

ImageOptim can be configured to reduce the size by a lot more than any of the online tools will. If you're on a Mac, there's no reason to use anything other than ImageOptim and ImageAlpha[1]. [1] http://pngmini.com

Wow. Never knew about ImageAlpha. Thanks for the link.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by kayoone »

gozmike wrote: post #68
photomatt wrote: post #61

I really like some of the things John has done in his mockups here, especially on the write screen, and contrary to what he thinks ideas like this are more than welcome in the WordPress community. (For example check out the dramatically revamped media or the dozens of eliminated options in trunk right now.) The one big mistake in his premise, however, is that only 34% of WordPress users are blogging, the actual perce…

Is it safe to say that without a vastly improved mobile experience WordPress is in serious trouble? As a huge fan of the WordPress community and what the software and platform has empowered, I'm seeing a decreasing amount of interest in blogging as my social network turns toward meme-sharing and 140-character quips simply because they're much more conducive to consumption and sharing on mobile. It's so bad that there…

agree, you can also clearly see this in how platforms like tumblr have "evolved" to be peoples place to share short attention-span stuff. Blogging is becoming more of a mixture of FB feeds/twitter for most people.

Re: Ghost — rethinking WordPress

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Post by izad »

Karunamon wrote: post #47
bergie wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PHP has the big benefit of being deployable anywhere. Without that fact it is unlikely that projects like Drupal or WordPress would've taken off as they have.

Newer languages aren't? Every linux distro that matters (including BSD, Gentoo, and others with a ports system), heck even Windows, has a full Rails stack that's about two commands away from being fully set up. Unless I misunderstood what you mean, here :)

What are those two commands?
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