Honda is killing its EVs

Post by jdlshore » Tue, Mar 17, 2026, 11:46 PM UTC

ourmandave wrote: post #279

bluGill wrote: post #261

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The US is moving the grid renewable. The guys at top might not think so and yell loudly not to, but they can't stop things, only put the brakes on a little.

They've pumped the brakes pretty hard by cutting EPA standards, subsidizing coal, suing to stop wind and solar projects, cutting green energy grants by $8B, yoinking solar tax credits, trying to rewrite the Clean Air Act to block states from regulating emissions, shield Big Oil from litigation for climate deception, and repeating Big Oil's lies and disinformation.

Post by Nition » Tue, Mar 17, 2026, 11:48 PM UTC

tormeh wrote: post #296

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I mean sales, specifically new car pure EV sales for 2025. We are only at 3% EVs on the road. I think for much of the population a brand new EV is simply too expensive.

Tbf a plug-in is just an EV that somehow runs on petrol 4 times a year. In practice the vast majority of driving is done on battery power.

Post by cozzyd » Tue, Mar 17, 2026, 11:49 PM UTC

antonvs wrote: post #253

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I understand the appeal. Do you use paper maps too or you have a smartphone on the dashboard ? That would be a bit cheating.

It’s interesting to see how people who grew up with smartphones think. It’s entirely possible to get around without smartphones or paper maps. There are road signs, written directions, verbal directions. The main time I used to use a paper map was driving long distance trips in a foreign country.

Post by seanmcdirmid » Tue, Mar 17, 2026, 11:50 PM UTC

Nition wrote: post #303

tormeh wrote: post #296

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Tbf a plug-in is just an EV that somehow runs on petrol 4 times a year. In practice the vast majority of driving is done on battery power.

If you include PHEVs along with pure EVs the total is around 12% total sales for 2025, and 4% total on the road. I'm not sure when PHEVs became available overseas but they haven't been an option here for that long. Heaps of hybrids are being sold but for now still mostly of the traditional non-plug-in type. As alliao says, this is partly because of the way road user charges (RUC) currently work, though that is slated…

Post by cryptoegorophy » Tue, Mar 17, 2026, 11:51 PM UTC

thelastgallon wrote: post #300

small_model wrote: post #297

All the legacy automakers that haven't fully moved to EV's PROFITABLY will go defacto bankrupt within a few years, there will be some mergers to stay alive but it's game over. Tesla and China companies will own auto, with Tesla capturing most the profit, similar to Apple vs Android phones. Autonomy will further accelerate this.

Spot on, except for the part about Tesla. Tesla shut down production of Model S & X. Coming up next: 3 and Y. Also, Tesla has YOY decreasing revenue and sales. Pretty soon, they will go pre-revenue and embrace what they are: A NFT traded on the stock market for bragging rights.