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Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Re: Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Post by liveoneggs »

gowld wrote: post #450
liveoneggs wrote: post #352

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a bubba burger (grocery store frozen burger) has 90mg sodium ( https://bubbafoods.com/nutrition/bubba-angus-beef-2lb/ ) a beyond burger has 310mg https://www.beyondmeat.com/en-US/products/the-beyond-burger They are lower in fat and total calories but they are obviously more processed = salt. Even a mcdonalds burger patty (without the bun) has less salt.

McDonalds quarter pounder has less salt per oz, but the Big Mac / basic burger patties have more salt per oz or per protein gram. https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/about-our-food/nutrition-...

thanks for the link; here are the numbers:

Basic burger without any other ingredients has 90 calories and 160mg sodium.

The quarter pounder patty alone has 220 calories and 210mg of sodium.

Big mac patty (includes "flavoring") has 190 calories and 310mg sodium.

Beyond patty is 230 calories with 310mg sodium.

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Post by troyvit »

tonymet wrote: post #457
jfengel wrote: post #12

That's too bad. I don't expect fake-meats to be healthy, or cheap, but I like that they can be made without killing animals and without raising them in inhumane conditions. I had really hoped that people would say, "Well, if it tastes close enough, then how about I go for the cruelty-free version." And it is close-enough -- it's at least as good as a fast-food hamburger. Perhaps the cognitive dissonance is just too m…

How can you grow plants without killing animals?

I think it's a question of degree. For instance, if you grow an acre of corn you kill a few animals right? And you have an acre of corn which would feed a few people for a year.

A cow takes about 10x as much corn per serving of meat, so that's 10x as many critters killed, and then you have to kill the cow.

The creatures that are killed in the field, or on the road or whatever, they are living their little lives eating and screwing and doing all the fun stuff creatures do until they get brained by a tilling disk or whatever.

A cow on the other hand, in a U.S. cafo? I mean if you like wading through your own shit, nose to asshole with all your compatriots, eating food that your GI tract doesn't even like that much so that you can get overweight? No stimulus, no sex, no variance in diet, then you'd love to be a cow.

For me, I just don't want to eat that.

Re: Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

blackjack_ wrote: post #186
jsbisviewtiful wrote: post #52

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I haven’t done a comparison of Beyond vs seitan for their nutritional value, but as someone who used to eat a lot more seitan I gleefully moved over to Beyond/Impossible. Seitan is packed full of gluten, which is much harder to digest. Seitan makes me uncomfortably bloated whereas Beyond/Impossible do not. And no, I don’t have a gluten “intolerance” or Celiac.

Seitan has 3x-5x the protein of beyond meat by weight. It sucks that your body processes it less. For me it’s usually a treat, and I’ve never noticed any digestive issues despite having issues with more whole wheat things (beer, more natural whole wheat breads). I’m glad you like the beyond meat though. Good for them to have actual consistent customers for the 2x / year I end up eating it!

My partner and I joke that seitan filled sandwiches are protein bread sandwiches lol. Def like the taste of seitan though!

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Post by lkbm »

billynomates wrote: post #247
barrell wrote: post #226

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This is such a weird comment. It’s ultra processed food devoid of micronutrients with low quality protein and poor bioavailability. Health conscious folks would definitely not choose this. In fact, it’s all the things you try to avoid as soon as you start being health conscious. Folks who want to believe they are being health conscious may be convinced via marketing to buy it, but anyone seriously invested in their n…

Health conscious ethical vegan here. I eat these fairly often. The protein content is fine. I get micronutrients from other sources. I track all my calories and macros, every single day. My diet is perfectly balanced, thanks very much. Something is only unhealthy or healthy in light of everything else you eat. It's reductive to say otherwise.

Same. I don't see a lot of micronutrients in ground beef that the Beyond patty doesn't have. You usually don't choose meat for the vitamins.

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Post by lkbm »

close04 wrote: post #290
billynomates wrote: post #247

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Health conscious ethical vegan here. I eat these fairly often. The protein content is fine. I get micronutrients from other sources. I track all my calories and macros, every single day. My diet is perfectly balanced, thanks very much. Something is only unhealthy or healthy in light of everything else you eat. It's reductive to say otherwise.

> I get micronutrients from other sources Looks like agree that it's not great but you compensate elsewhere. If you chose the "hard way" of limiting your menu to vegan why not pick the options with less compromises? Even paper can be food as long as you compensate elsewhere. > Something is only unhealthy or healthy in light of everything else you eat. It's reductive to say otherwise. Are you maybe conflating "unhealt…

What micronutrients are you getting from ground beef that Beyond burgers don't have?

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

Judging by other comments I guess I'm in the minority here: I'm a meat-eater that just enjoys the flavor of the Beyond Meat products. They taste absolutely delicious to me. I don't view it as a meat alternative, so I couldn't care less about that side of the debate. I enjoy it like I enjoy a good falafel.

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Post by lkbm »

lm28469 wrote: post #276
TeMPOraL wrote: post #234

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Maybe they're hoping there exists a non-crazy subset of "health conscious" population, i.e. people who are not panicly afraid of "ultra processed" food and generally don't consider food processing to be a sin, who don't see food manufacturing plants as temples of Satan, and are otherwise health conscious and not just playing the fitness fad social games.

> people who are not panicly afraid of "ultra processed" food and generally don't consider food processing to be a sin If you're not you should, colon cancer is becoming a leading cause of death in people under 40... https://www.cancerresearch.org/blog/colorectal-cancer-awaren... https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/0...

Note that the risk factor of diet in your chose to highlight exactly one food to avoid: red meat.

Yeah, you should probably eat more low-processed foods like veggies, but the Beyond Burger is used as a replacement for beef, not for carrots.

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Post by lm28469 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #344
lm28469 wrote: post #319

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Strange, every single source I can find blame diets and lifestyles, but you might be right and everyone else is wrong, we just "talk more about it"... you have a good source of copium my friend

It's easy to blame diets and lifestyles because you don't have to be specific, and if reality disagrees with your hypothesis, you can claim the victim didn't hold their lifestyle or diet right. Diet/exercise are the ultimate "fuck off" advice.

> It's easy to blame diets and lifestyles because you don't have to be specific

It's extremely specific actually: obesity, smoked meat, red meat, alcohol, cigarettes, high sugar, low fibers, nitrites and a shit loads of additives that are banned in the EU but not in the US.

> Diet/exercise are the ultimate "fuck off" advice.

No, it's a every simple and actionable advice actually, you can reduce your chances of cancer by 50-75% by "diet and exercise"

> if reality disagrees with your hypothesis

It does not disagree with "my" hypothesis (which is the universal consensus btw)

> you can claim the victim didn't hold their lifestyle or diet right

It's your life, do as you please, you're a big boy, you'll be the only one paying the price ultimately. I don't exercise and eat clean because it makes me invincible, I do it because it makes me feel better, improve my odds at pretty much everything in life and increase my health span dramatically, even if I die of cancer next month I am already benefiting from my actions every single day.

> tobacco, diet, infection, obesity, and other factors contribute approximately 25–30%, 30–35%, 15–20%, 10–20%, and 10–15%, respectively, to the incidence of all cancer deaths in the USA

researchgate.net/publication/5225070_Cancer_is_a_Preventable_Disease_that_Requires_Major_Lifestyle_Changes?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6Il9kaXJlY3QiLCJwYWdlIjoiX2RpcmVjdCJ9fQ

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Cancers-that-have-been-l...

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-role-of-genes-and-en...

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Marha01 wrote: post #467
oblio wrote: post #244

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Ultra processed foods are tied with a myriad of health conditions. https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-maga... Please tell the British Heart Foundation that they're "the crazy kind of health conscious" :-)

From your source: > Ultra-processed foods: Ultra-processed foods typically have more than 1 ingredient that you never or rarely find in a kitchen. They also tend to include many additives and ingredients that are not typically used in home cooking, such as preservatives, emulsifiers, sweeteners, and artificial colours and flavours. These foods generally have a long shelf life. Are there ingredients actually in the Be…

Also:

> many additives and ingredients that are not typically used in home cooking, such as preservatives, emulsifiers

Since when? Salt is a highly effective preservative, egg yolk is a powerful emulsifier, and they're largely used for those exact purposes.

The amount of bullshit in "healthy eating" and fitness fad space never ceases to amaze me.

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Post by thegreatpeter »

lambda wrote: post #132
Grimblewald wrote: post #11

I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…

This is such a weird comment. Why do you think that "ethical vegans" like the "taste of plants" any more than anyone else? The whole point of being an ethical vegan/vegetarian is to not consume animals, not because you don't like the taste. Health conscious folks would definitely choose these over hamburgers. Sure, they're not perfect from a health food point of view, but they're lower in sodium and saturated fat tha…

If any of this were true they’d be doing much better and not pivoting
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