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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by toast0 »

Y_Y wrote: post #222
toast0 wrote: post #81

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The text of the law says: > 1798.501. (a) An operating system provider shall do all of the following: > (1) Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store. [And some other stuff]. A simple…

So would a single-user OS without accounts be ok?

I think, if there's no account setup, there's no need to request an age/birthday signal. Although if there's am app store and no account setup, you might have trouble.

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Post by raincole »

akersten wrote: post #280
raincole wrote: post #271

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You see a slippery slope and I see a reasonable compromise. It's a wildly popular opinion that we should control which age groups can use social media[0][1][2]. Do you think these polls are astroturfed? If not, it's clear people want some sort of age verification, and I think California's way is the least intrusive. And I know someone is going to say 'then we should regulate social media sites to force them to verify…

People, generally, have no grasp of what they really want or what downstream effects of what they think they want look like. They don't know what it would take to effect that ban. In fact, I would speculate that if the same group were asked "should you, personally, have to scan your ID to visit Facebook," you'd see a meaningful shift in responses. (yes, I know that's not the way this particular CA proposal would be i…

> They don't know what it would take to effect that ban.

Exactly. This is why if there is no some less evil way to appease these stupid people we'll go all the way straight to the evilest way. Stupid and uninformed people do actually vote.

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Post by throw10920 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #253
charcircuit wrote: post #173

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This leads to anarchy or selective enforcement. Unjust laws should be removed.

> Unjust laws should be removed. Yeah, in an ideal world. Good luck with that. We live in a deeply unjust world where laws are literally bought and paid for by corporations. This age verification nonsense is just the latest example. They aren't going to sit idle if we attack their lobbying efforts, they're going to come after us. God only knows what a surveillance company like Meta can do to you if they really hate y…

OK, so then you think the entire system is corrupt, and you should reform/replace it.

Selective rejection of laws based on your own personal morals is wrong in every circumstance.

Either you believe the system is just and you follow all the rules (and work through the system to changes the individual rules you believe are unjust), or you believe that the system is fundamentally unjust and you take drastic action to fix it. If you don't, then you're a hypocrite - you don't really believe that the system is unjust, you're just using that as an excuse to selectively ignore laws you disagree with.

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Post by bastawhiz »

This is kind of neat, but the site design is very obviously Claude's handiwork. Has anyone else noticed this very distinctive look, which is a dark mode site with semi transparent cards with a thin less transparent border, maybe ten pixels of border radius... In the last six months this has shown up everywhere. Tools at work look like it. Blogs look like it. It's inoffensive but imperfect, and when so many sites look like it, it starts to look cheap.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by throw10920 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #250
akoboldfrying wrote: post #244

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What if two people's consciences disagree?

Do it regardless. If you're right other people will realize that. If not, they won't.

> If you're right other people will realize that. If not, they won't.

That literally does not answer the GP's question.

You're just an anarchist. We can save a lot of steps if you just state that outright.

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Post by dlivingston »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #154
tim333 wrote: post #140

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They all copy each other. Also some of it was set off by the book, Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation.

That dude gives off such slimy vibes. Not like he’s evil. More like he’s unqualified to be in the position he’s found himself in. His presentations on talk shows gives me the impression he knows just enough about the topic of digital effects on society to throw together a book. The he lets people raise him up to the microphone and speaks for the sake of speaking. Hardly an expert, not an operator. Compare to people w…

If you were familiar with his background you wouldn't be writing this comment, which makes what you wrote a bit awkwardly ironic.

Short of it: 30-ish year career as a psychology professor and researcher focused on morality and emotions. If you follow the track of his popular science books, The Anxious Generation (on smartphone use in teens) is very much a sequel to The Coddling of the American Mind, which itself is something of a sequel to The Righteous Mind, and so on. There's a very clear linearity and progression to his works.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by kimixa »

fxtentacle wrote: post #237
kimixa wrote: post #189

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There's no (state) school giving out tablets that aren't pretty much single-use locked down devices. That's the parents. The expectation that "Parenting" is now outsourced to Teachers, to the Government, to anyone else. People seem to expect they just have a kid, and somehow magically they'll grow up to be a perfect person without any work from themselves. So there's over-reach, there's pressure on making "unworkable…

In theory „There's no (state) school giving out tablets that aren't pretty much single-use locked down devices.“ In practice, most schools lack anyone with enough technical literacy to lock down the device. So they just hand out unlocked cheap android tablets with all the stock spyware and advertisement pre-installed.

They don't "hand out" anything really - probably the closest thing is government programmes to fund laptops/tablets for low income families, but not a single school locally "gives out" tablets to kids. But they're all just "normal retail" devices.

They have some things used in lessons, but they're all given out at the beginning of the lesson, then gathered at the end.

You could argue that it's a problem they they assume home access to such things anyway - especially in later years - as things like online 'homework' is the norm.

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