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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
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Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#482Does this surprise anyone, just over a decade ago there was a whistleblower who said the government was spying on its own citizens. The president and half the country called him a traitor. The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification. That includes working any job that also requires the use of that tech(Basically all jobs). The only thing that…
> The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification No, the way to stop it is to talk to your representatives . You have the power. You just have to pick up a phone, and ask your friends, relatives, neighbors, to do the same. (They will, because it affects all of them.) Tell your reps to remove the legislation or you're voting them out. They don't…
I hate to be negative here but every single time I have spoken with a representative, they will just take the party line. "Thank you for reaching out. We are doing X as advised by the department of Y based on our evidence of Z."
Then they just continue with that was already happening.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#483Does this surprise anyone, just over a decade ago there was a whistleblower who said the government was spying on its own citizens. The president and half the country called him a traitor. The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification. That includes working any job that also requires the use of that tech(Basically all jobs). The only thing that…
Snowden's story makes zero sense. Former CIA employee turned NSA contractor, making six figures, working remotely in Hawaii, one day suddenly decides he has a conscience, somehow gets laptops filled with classified documents, hands them over in the South Pacific to Der Spegiel and Glenn Greenwald, then goes off to Russia where he's lived unmolested for years, and his smokin hot girlfriend joins him and he's never faced consequences where as Julian Assange was held captive in an embassy for years. Meanwhile, every other whistle blower that went to The Intercept was subsequently arrested and Greenwald still denies it was a honey pot, going as far as to throw Whitney Webb under the bus over it.
The reason nothing happened was because Snowden is still a State Dept or CIA asset. He's an actor and/or a limited hangout of some kind to show the US government and claim to be doing absolutely insane bullshit and nobody cares. New Zealand retroactively changed their laws (clearing John Key of any wrong doing for illegally spying on Kim Dotcom), allowing the GCHQ to legally spy on all their citizens.
As far as refusing to work for these companies, I was on Linux at work for over a decade. But after my last job I was forced to take a .NET role and with a $30k/yr paycut. It'd like to get back into a good role again where I can use Linux, but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to stand my ground on this issue, because I also don't want to lose my house and software jobs are incredibly scares right now. Unlike Snowden, I don't have a government paycheck coming in to continue spreading lies.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#484Does this surprise anyone, just over a decade ago there was a whistleblower who said the government was spying on its own citizens. The president and half the country called him a traitor. The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification. That includes working any job that also requires the use of that tech(Basically all jobs). The only thing that…
>The only way to stop this from happening is half the >country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age >verification. Or, refuse to participate or use any tech that implements OS age verification (start with communication app Discord).
Women posted their government IDs, including military IDs, in a stupid Tea/Gossip app. You or I refusing to participate means shit compared to the other 90% of the population.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#485Does this surprise anyone, just over a decade ago there was a whistleblower who said the government was spying on its own citizens. The president and half the country called him a traitor. The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification. That includes working any job that also requires the use of that tech(Basically all jobs). The only thing that…
Snowden's story makes zero sense. Former CIA employee turned NSA contractor, making six figures, working remotely in Hawaii, one day suddenly decides he has a conscience, somehow gets laptops filled with classified documents, hands them over in the South Pacific to Der Spegiel and Glenn Greenwald, then goes off to Russia where he's lived unmolested for years, and his smokin hot girlfriend joins him and he's never fac…
yes and the earth is flat too along with the moon landing of course classic
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#486> the sponsor of Louisiana's HB-570, publicly confirmed that a Meta lobbyist brought the legislative language directly to her. The bill as drafted required only app stores (Apple, Google) to verify user ages. It did not require social media platforms to do anything. Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it low…
> Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it lower in the stack”. Perhaps the "overwhelming" sentiment is paid actors? Or people whose jobs depend on not having that risk assigned to their employers?
Perhaps, or perhaps there are legitimate privacy concerns with requiring every website to collect a photo of your ID to prove you are not a minor?
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes something good (ATT). Sometimes something bad (this terrible age-verification thing that is a huge barrier to entry for small entrants and comes with massive state surveillance risk). In the end, all the little people are just collateral damage or occasionally they get some collateral benefits from wherever the munitions land.
If ATT had been applied uniformly, sure. But Apple has exemption from its own rules. So, less trickle down benefit, and more tilting the playing field wildly in their favor. Its new advertising system is doing great!
I don't think the online advertising field is tilted "wildly in Apple's favor". Yes, Apple squeaked out one area of advantage, eliminating some crushing abuse by others in the process.
In a sane world, no one would have the kind of market power that so much hinges upon their competitive actions.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That law is perhaps an annoyance for Apple, but it can't cost them billions, can it? The CEO has 24h in the day, and he/she is asked to be deposed (laws and legal system has that power), it chips away from grand visions. It isnt just money, you cant just stand up a team and be done with it. Everybody will be coming at you. Expect to see a lot "Y alleges Apple didnt do enough to protect kids" and the burden of proof…
An offensive against Facebook is in order, then. If they're pushing war, then they shouldn't be surprised when they're targeted in turn.
But didnt Apple fire the first shot with ATT? Apple was never against ads (see ads.apple.com or numerous ads on App Store) they were against Facebook's ads.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it lower in the stack”. Perhaps the "overwhelming" sentiment is paid actors? Or people whose jobs depend on not having that risk assigned to their employers?
Perhaps, or perhaps there are legitimate privacy concerns with requiring every website to collect a photo of your ID to prove you are not a minor?
There are legitimate privacy concerns with requiring every website to collect a photo of your ID to prove you are not a minor.
Those concerns are amplified when it's done even lower in the stack. You don't want a website to collect your ID? Neither do I. I also don't want my OS to collect anything about me either.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't understand why nobody in the comments is freaked out about this. Because it's hopeless? It's been proven time and time again there's nothing the average person can do to fight this sort of thing. It's just better to sit back and watch as everything gets ruined.
Actually it's the opposite. Average people speaking out is how the world gets better. It's when they don't speak out that things are allowed to get worse. You literally live in a Democracy. There's 5.8 billion people on this planet who wish they had the kind of power you have. If you give up your rights without a fight, you don't deserve them.
Sure, but the brits have voted for less immigration please for 30 years straight and only ever gotten more of it.
The SAVE Act the orange dude's admin is trying to pass? Requiring ID to vote is popular among every race (eg. over 70% of blacks are in favour), among both Democrat and Republican voters. Its overall support among people is undeniable, and the ID demand itself commonsense. Somehow Congress can't pass a piece of common sense that's wildly popular among both parties' voters.
Sure, democracy can and does give the ordinary man more influence than in many places, but some things will still simply just happen and people's opinions will have very little sway.