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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Does this surprise anyone, just over a decade ago there was a whistleblower who said the government was spying on its own citizens. The president and half the country called him a traitor. The only way to stop this from happening is half the country refuse to buy any tech that implements OS age verification. That includes working any job that also requires the use of that tech(Basically all jobs). The only thing that talks is money and when half your workforce is not working(or buying anything because they aren't working) then things will get changed real quick. But most people don't want to do that because no one is willing to suffer short term for long term gains. The govt and 1% know this that's why they increment it slowly overtime with generic causes like "save the children"

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Age verification is merely the background task to set up infrastructure for OS to provide many many other signals about who's using the device. Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. Biometric data? Today it unlocks your private key. Tomorrow it's used to verify you are the same person that was used…

The application has access to your entire home folder, isn't that enough information?

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Where do I donate to oppose this bullshit? I want to open my wallet. It should be the top comment.

Donate a phone call. You aren't gonna win the bribing war against people who own a machine that turns your worthless data into millions of dollars.

If everybody who cared to and lived in the affected districts called they would kill the bill just to clear their phone-lines.

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Age verification is merely the background task to set up infrastructure for OS to provide many many other signals about who's using the device. Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. Biometric data? Today it unlocks your private key. Tomorrow it's used to verify you are the same person that was used…

>Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. This is a non-issue because it's almost certainly going to be gated behind a permission prompt. There are more invasive things sites/apps can ask for, and we seem to be doing fine, eg. location. Moreover is it really that much of a privacy loss if you go on ste…

This is the doommongering coming to pass. Did it happen overnight? No! But you just provided the excuse! "gee see nothing bad came to pass. We can just use that tool"

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post #235

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Nobody stops the government from sending goons to your door right now for a snarky comment. Some govts in fact do it today. It is also cheaper than ai rocket and more precise too

Goons don't scale well. Wide-scale intimidation does.

In a sense, surveillance is a multiplier on your goons, creating virtual goons. If you have 5 goons but you can send them directly to the house of people who disagree with the government with 99% accuracy, it's like you had 500 goons waiting outside 500 houses then only entering the ones where people disagree with the government.

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Cost kind of stops the government from sending goons right now, sure some governments do it but, it's costly at scale.

The UK gov has shown to be incredibly efficient at arresting and imprisoning citizens for social media comments.

This is widely promoted but not true.

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> App and website developers shouldn't be burdened with extra costly liability Why not? Physical businesses have liability if they provide age restricted items to children. As far as I know, strip clubs are liable for who enters. Selling alcohol to a child carries personal criminal liability for store clerks. Assuming society decides to restrict something from children, why should online businesses be exempt? On who…

> Why not? This implies the creation of an infrastructure for the total surveillance of citizens, unlike age verification by physical businesses.

Knowing if the user's over 18 doesn't imply total surveillance, it only implies a user profile setting that says if they're over 18.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Age verification is merely the background task to set up infrastructure for OS to provide many many other signals about who's using the device. Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. Biometric data? Today it unlocks your private key. Tomorrow it's used to verify you are the same person that was used…

Nobody stops the government from sending goons to your door right now for a snarky comment. Some govts in fact do it today. It is also cheaper than ai rocket and more precise too

Stop justifying more horrible stuff with "there is already some horrible stuff"
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