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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by dryheat3 »

nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

Might want to explore “Agenda 2030”. I don’t know for certain if it applies to this specific issue. But it does hint at a coordinated effort to build a completely new framework for managing the human species through technology.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by andai »

rorylawless wrote: post #108
brightball wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not if you’ve paid attention to political trends for the last 15 years. Everything is happening at the same time in every country. It’s clearly being coordinated.

The simpler explanation is that we live in a world that is more connected than ever so politicians, campaigners and the rest can get policy ideas almost instantly. There is no grand conspiracy, just a smaller world.

Yeah, it's not like there's a literal james bond supervillain who writes books about this stuff and brags about how half of parliament is in his pocket.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by [deleted] »

Eji1700 wrote: post #92
pocksuppet wrote: post #27

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Why should that be our problem when we can just tell parents to parent?

There's a middle ground shockingly and I do think it's roughly why this all came up at once. "Just parent" isn't easy in an age of large numbers of families having to both work and kids having a computer in their hands at all times. The "please don't say you're 18 if you aren't" standard has NEVER applied for anything else flagged as adult. If you sell products or allow services to a minor without doing proper checks…

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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by eddythompson80 »

nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

Eh, it really isn’t that surprising. “Activists” in any country are quick to capitalize on a news cycle. You also missed AU. If you squint you would realize that they are all English speaking (or use English as a common exchange language)

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by raincole »

bryan_w wrote: post #181

Some people are being played like a gosh dang fiddle. Y'all are so pavlovian that you see Zuck/Meta and instantly rage. The alternative to OS based verification isn't no verification. It's cloud-based verification The cloud verifiers have all the interest in the world to making you hate the idea that this problem could be solved at the OS level without any third party involvement

Exactly. And the funniest part is that when Steam implemented cloud-based verification for UK compliance, many people on HN suggested that the correct approach is to verify on hardware/OS level.

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Post by pocksuppet »

nullorempty wrote: post #194
nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

It reaches far out, not just the West. China remains relatively immune. S. Korea and Japan immune to some degree. Russia, unfortunately, is not immune at all.

The things that our politicians want to make illegal for children were already illegal for everyone in China.

That probably has something to do with why China's economically outperforming us so much.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

sophrosyne42 wrote: post #144
macintux wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running as a libertarian, and governing as a libertarian, are two entirely different things.

He has been doing pretty well so far.

Trump owns him now. He has to pay the piper.

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Post by smithcoin »

jmcgough wrote: post #158
helterskelter wrote: post #105

Meta is why all these laws are happening. Please reach out to media outlets with this investigation so it can get more coverage. People need to be talking about this. https://tboteproject.com/

I'm fairly skeptical of the findings, as the majority of the research and writing was done by Claude Opus. I'd be more likely to believe groups like AIPAC are behind this - they have poured a lot of money into online censorship legislation.

I saw this posting from here the other day about how it’s meta wanting to pass the buck to OS and browser vendors a la Section 230: https://web.archive.org/web/20260313125244/https://old.reddi...

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by pocksuppet »

phyzix5761 wrote: post #125
nico wrote: post #46

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And LATAM probably soon to follow, specially Argentina with Milei and now Chile with their new right wing president

There's 2 axes on the political spectrum. Economic and Social axes. Liberal and Conservative is one dimension (Economic) and Authoritarian and Libertarian is another dimension (Social). In the US both the Democratic Party (Liberal) and Republican Party (Conservatives) are considered Authoritarian on this 2 dimensional graph. Milei claims to be a Conservative Libertarian so, in theory, he should be opposed to this. We…

There are almost infinite axes. We can do a principal component analysis to find the most important 2.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by bawis »

dryheat3 wrote: post #201
nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

Might want to explore “Agenda 2030”. I don’t know for certain if it applies to this specific issue. But it does hint at a coordinated effort to build a completely new framework for managing the human species through technology.

Can you elaborate please?
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