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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.

I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so).

I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

#104

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And the amount of bots there isn't helpful either.

recent changes in their comment system have reduced my exposure to bots to a level I much prefer over every other platform I use

How recent? As recently as last weekend I was seeing blue check marks replying with AI generated only-technically-related replies on top of the majority of the posts I looked at.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #46

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ]

Elon Musk is a generic-indignant tangent wanker and not what this site is for.

Thanks for providing a space for me to say that.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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And the amount of bots there isn't helpful either.

recent changes in their comment system have reduced my exposure to bots to a level I much prefer over every other platform I use

If that's actually true, good for them, but after what I've witnessed there not that long ago, I doubt I'll try it ever again.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

Grok is trained on pretty much the same giant web crawl/text corpus as the other AIs.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #85

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It’s pretty telling that Elon had to have Grok rewrite Wikipedia because the truth was too woke for him. No idea how anybody can ever take Grok seriously.

I take Grokipedia very seriously as a threat to society. Sure, they're happy if people read it and fall for - but the primary goal is not to convince humans, but to influence search results of current models & to poison the training data of future models. ChatGPT (and most likely other models/providers too) is already using Grokipedia as a source, so unless you're aware of the possibility and always careful, you migh…

I've seen Claude pick it up too. It's disconcerting.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #42

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To be fair I think there's a good usecase there. Someone's gonna do it. People will want it. American financial institutions are too prudish for it but money is money. And personally I think there's nothing morally wrong with it (of course within normal restrictions like 18+, consent of portrayed parties etc) xAI is getting flak in Europe because they don't obey consent and age, not because it's porn. Personally I pr…

That consent of portrayed parties is impossible. What is the solution there?

Shouldn’t it be possible for AI to filter out that a request is made to portray a real person? That seems almost like a trivial task for a good model. I am sure every now and then something will slip through, but I bet one could make it very close to 100% effective.
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