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Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by miltonlost »

wolvoleo wrote: post #31
xnx wrote: post #23

xAI's biggest contribution to the space seems to have been their x-rated image/video model. Hard to see what xAI has to offer against Gemini, Claud, ChatGPT.

To be fair I think there's a good usecase there. Someone's gonna do it. People will want it. American financial institutions are too prudish for it but money is money. And personally I think there's nothing morally wrong with it (of course within normal restrictions like 18+, consent of portrayed parties etc) xAI is getting flak in Europe because they don't obey consent and age, not because it's porn. Personally I pr…

There's a good use case for professional assassins too, someone's gonna do it, and people want them too.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by BoredPositron »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #47
UncleOxidant wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. And Google. They're quietly making a lot of progress in the coding space with antigravity and Gemini 3.1.

Has Antigravity gotten any better?

Probably the best value for a good amount of anthropic credits. You can also share your Google ai subscription with up to four family members and they all get the same amount of credits...

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by Herring »

dang wrote: post #52
coliveira wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You've been a good HN user for many years, but lately your comment history has swerved towards ideological battle generally, and unsubstantive flamebait like this post. Can you please swerve back? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: before someone pounces, no, I'm in no way defending either E. Just trying to hold up HN.

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by libertine »

notahacker wrote: post #20
bearjaws wrote: post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

Twitter's communication style being based around brevity, slang, memes, spam and non-threaded conversations seems particularly unlikely to be helpful for optimising LLMs

And the amount of bots there isn't helpful either.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by alex1138 »

brokencode wrote: post #44
bearjaws wrote: post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

It’s pretty telling that Elon had to have Grok rewrite Wikipedia because the truth was too woke for him. No idea how anybody can ever take Grok seriously.

I can both not like Elon and also think Wikipedia is also very captured on some things

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Post by trollbridge »

chabes wrote: post #42
wolvoleo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair I think there's a good usecase there. Someone's gonna do it. People will want it. American financial institutions are too prudish for it but money is money. And personally I think there's nothing morally wrong with it (of course within normal restrictions like 18+, consent of portrayed parties etc) xAI is getting flak in Europe because they don't obey consent and age, not because it's porn. Personally I pr…

That consent of portrayed parties is impossible. What is the solution there?

Portray fictional characters?

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by stainablesteel »

im not surprised, grok definitely falls behind as both a coding agent and a research tool.

claude codes the best, gpt is the best research tool, and grok is really only great at videos. which isn't a huge loss, but videos don't have the same functional capacity as academic topics and coding

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by numbers_guy »

Unfortunate. The Grok team built a phenomenal model. I use it all the time and it very often out performs GPT and Claude, on coding and STEM research related tasks. I was part of the beta for a while Grok 4.2 Beta with multi-agents and it was just amazingly good.

People aren't using it for reasons other than its capabilities. I mean, I don't think my boss would approve a paid Grok subscription for example.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by ben_w »

bearjaws wrote: post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

> Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward.

Really? I assumed that that whole thing was just a very direct `for each article in Wikipedia { article = LLM(systemprompt, article) }`

Agree re Twitter "good" != valuable.

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