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Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I love WFH but how is it a win climate change solution for anyone outside of the USA? If my office building WFH, instead of heating a building we need to heat 500 people homes all day. And most of the people commute by public transport.

Vast majority of people are not touching their thermostat much at all when going to the office. But these are stupid made up arguments. WFH or not both the homes with no one in them and the offices with no tenants are getting heated still to keep the pipes from bursting.

>stupid made up arguments

All arguments are made up.

>getting heated still to keep the pipes from bursting

If I work from home my home must be kept at 19°. If I go to the office, my house can go down to 14-16° no problem.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I know it's a meme on HN to say everyone likes WFH, but I (and many but not ICs around me) thrive more in person. I am 100% more effective in person where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally. This can be recreated in a remote environment by having things like a team Discord that folks sit on, but it can feel forced at times (just like communiting to the office I suppose). My ta…

If you genuinely "thrive" more in person then go live next to your office. No point sitting in a 30-60 minute commute. America/UK took the brunt of the cost transitioning towards knowledge work, but kept the costs of manufacturing (shipping people around). Even if it's slightly more productive, the cost is externalized on the workers making them poorer and sickly. >Oh no you don't understand I need a compress decompr…

Apartments near my workplace cost twice as much as where I live and commute from. The office is in a concrete jungle, my apartment is in a charming neighborhood famous for high end restaurants. My friends live nearby. My landlord is the super chill old dude down the hall. Public schools where I live are as good as private schools where I work.

People's emotionally driven myopia on this topic never fails to impress me. "No point" in making such a ridiculously weak argument.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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WFH was great to begin with, but as somebody living alone, the isolation starts to have an effect after a while when you're 'working alone' too And for many people WFH has other problems - if you're a dual-WFH couple in a small home, lack of home office space is a very real problem. (Although if WFH was a permanent thing, many people could choose less expensive places to live, and have more space) Still, anything to…

> And for many people WFH has other problems - if you're a dual-WFH couple in a small home, lack of home office space is a very real problem. (Although if WFH was a permanent thing, many people could choose less expensive places to live, and have more space) Sure I get meetings you need to go to separate rooms, but how is the rest is different from a regular open office? Oh no, my co-working space has the person I li…

Usually best not to sleep with the people in your workplace?

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Sensible boundaries for dividing continents? Do the Rocky Mountains count as dividing North America into east and west subcontinents? Does the Baltic Sea partition the Nordic countries into their own continent? Are you really expecting that logic to work even a little bit?

> Do the Rocky Mountains count as dividing North America into east and west subcontinents? The east part would be a bit small, but after a bit more seismic activity that may be sensible. > Does the Baltic Sea partition the Nordic countries into their own continent? Could be a subcontinent border yeah, it is a common division in Europe. > Are you really expecting that logic to work even a little bit? Yeah, there are m…

Look at the absurdities you have to commit to so you can keep pretending this makes sense.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I've long said that WFH is an easy win climate change solution that costs nothing, is well loved by everyone who participates (except management). Turns out in times like this, it's also an energy security measure.

I'm introverted but very glad I have the option of working from the office and being among fellow staff, we also have a lunchtime exercise club once a week. It's much better for my mental health. In fact, I've added two days working outside of home instead of one because of the benefits. I think 3 days home/2 days office is the sweet spot.

ultimately people want choice. not forced ways of working. not sure why companies don't get this.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I don't think GP was forcing anyone to do anything.

Thanks pal, I was not forcing anyone... but I guess my wording made it sound "this applies to everyone!". I put my comment out there to trigger just this kind of discussion.

I'm not saying you're doing this, but I can't tell you how many complaints I've read where people who want to work in office get there, are bummed out about the fact that their colleagues all work from home, and go whinging to management who are looking for any excuse to bring people back into office.

That tends to generate resistance

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I would love to have a coworking-space-on-every-block (or in every building) where all the WFHers can go to be around other people (just not the coworkers)

A place where We all work. Call it a WeWork maybe.

HN people always try to do this cute rhetorical gesture where you take a thing and say "hmm nice idea what if we called it ", but they like this joke so much they get baited into doing it in dumb ways like this one.

A coworking space in every building != a WeWork. There's a big difference between these! You could implement the former by opening a million WeWorks but that doesn't sound good at all; residential apartment buildings already have common areas, free to residents, they would simply have to be reimagined slightly.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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What do you call it? It's a continent, right?

Calling Eurasia a continent would make more sense. "Asia" doesn't have a really sensical physical boundary. May as well say Mexico is a different continent from the US just because there's a big cultural and ethnic difference across the border.

> Calling Eurasia a continent would make more sense

Is that what Eastern people do?

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Are these countries being very conservative or do their oil supply get impacted by a couple weeks of war? If so that is a very concerning situation

The closest gas station in my area is out of stock already. I'm in Philippines, totally miles away from the war.

Wow! Thanks for the info. This is much more dire than I had imagined. Hope it stops quickly and normalcy resumes
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