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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Not surprisingly, Meta is possibly the worst "offender" behind funding of these campaigns.

Which is strange, because it is widely known a large amount of their advertising revenue comes from fake accounts.

This doesn’t make sense, how do these fake accounts bring revenue ? I thought the end goal is to improve conversion rate by removing the “bots” and this would therefore lead to higher ad spend and more money to Facebook direct

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Nobody stops the government from sending goons to your door right now for a snarky comment. Some govts in fact do it today. It is also cheaper than ai rocket and more precise too

Cost kind of stops the government from sending goons right now, sure some governments do it but, it's costly at scale.

The cost effectiveness is the intimidation and chilling effects on a wider population, when that can be achieved with a small number of actual goons.

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Age verification is merely the background task to set up infrastructure for OS to provide many many other signals about who's using the device. Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. Biometric data? Today it unlocks your private key. Tomorrow it's used to verify you are the same person that was used…

Nobody stops the government from sending goons to your door right now for a snarky comment. Some govts in fact do it today. It is also cheaper than ai rocket and more precise too

The government already does that. The only challenge is scale.

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Its called police. And they scale extraordinarily well. And turns out power-tripping men offered raw power over other humans on threat of violence is something they like. And ICE? Remember J6 and Three Percenter's and all those right wing militias? They ended up in ICE. Same reasons.

A very bold claim I have heard repeatedly, backed up with zero evidence. Care to share any proof you have found?

https://archive.is/nwxkh

That was from a quick search, no doubt there's more. Now it gets down to trust issues on reporting.

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>Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. This is a non-issue because it's almost certainly going to be gated behind a permission prompt. There are more invasive things sites/apps can ask for, and we seem to be doing fine, eg. location. Moreover is it really that much of a privacy loss if you go on ste…

> This is a non-issue because it's almost certainly going to be gated behind a permission prompt. lol. > Moreover is it really that much of a privacy loss if you go on steam, it asks you to verify you're over 18, and the OS says you're actually over 18? Slippery slope, but an interesting argument. While SteamOS is a thing, Steam isn't my OS. > Given touch id was introduced over a decade ago, and the associated doom-m…

>Slippery slope, but an interesting argument. While SteamOS is a thing, Steam isn't my OS.

You mean non slippery slope?

>Really? You think that things built decades ago can't be further built-upon in the now or the future?

If there's no deadlines for predilections, how can we score them? Should we still be worried about some yet undiscovered way that cell phones are causing cancer, despite decades of apparently no harmful side effects?

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> permission prompt Watch as apps refuse to work when you deny them permission. Also the OS (and “privileged apps”) don’t ask for permission, they have full unfettered access to everything already.

>Also the OS (and “privileged apps”) don’t ask for permission, they have full unfettered access to everything already. If you can't trust the OS, you have bigger issues than it knowing whether you're 18 or not. At the very least it has a camera pointed at you at all moments you're using it, and can eavesdrop in all your conversations.

Of course you can trust an OS that is engineered against you.

If your OS prevented encryption, because one of the anti-encryption laws got passed, would you still trust its privacy and security?

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Jesus. As an American I can do my part, but it’s not much. $70 million is chump change for Meta, yet is far more money than I’ll ever have and does so much to influence state legislation.

Time and time again it amazes me how incredibly cheap lobbied politicians are. They may be earning big sums for an individual, but if you go full corruption[1] to sell out a state or a country - sell it for a fair price.

I remember from peak net neutrality discussions during trump 1 maybe around 2017-2018 ant saw an article on theverge.com (that cannot find now) and biggest sum to individual politician was around $200k, when median values were much much lower.

Politicians are selling tens of billions of dollars (if not hundreds of billions) worth of revenue to ISPs for couple or dozen million. Literally 1000x return on investment (if successful).

I remember local politician (I am not from US) got caught taking 100k bribe from a company for helping with alleged highway construction procurement. Project was valued ~1B - 10 000x return on investment (if they wouldn't have been caught).

[1] I am sorry, not "corruption", but "lobbying".

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Cost kind of stops the government from sending goons right now, sure some governments do it but, it's costly at scale.

The UK gov has shown to be incredibly efficient at arresting and imprisoning citizens for social media comments.

Please share evidence.
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