The original post was removed from reddit but it links to this GitHub repo that has most of the same information, but in a different format: https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
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Nobody stops the government from sending goons to your door right now for a snarky comment. Some govts in fact do it today. It is also cheaper than ai rocket and more precise too
The goons are. Almost no government can create goons that are submissive enough to comply with any kind of crazy order.
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I probably don't have all the info on the various laws across the US and EU that are being pushed, but I'm confused why Linux distros don't just update their licensing and add a notice on the installation screen that it is illegal to run their OS in places where these laws exist? Heck, Linus Torvalds should just add an amendment to the next release of the Linux Kernel that makes it illegal to use in any jurisdiction…
Because they want market share, and throwing a hissyfit over being asked to add an "I am over 18" checkbox is not good PR. If Debian starts refusing to work in California because it doesn't want to add a checkbox, it will simply be replaced by someone who adds that checkbox and doesn't throw the fit.
Debian, Ubuntu, etc., they'll all fall right in line because the clear and immediate losses will outweigh any PR issue.
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This is obviously where it's going to go, at least in the US. Things that are non-religious, non-Christian especially, pro-LGBT, and similar will be disproportionately pulled under "adult content" to ensure that children are not able to be exposed to unapproved ideas during formative years.
That has already been going on for decades, with satanic panic and banning of library books.
Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act
#265The original post was removed from reddit but it links to this GitHub repo that has most of the same information, but in a different format: https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
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Its called police. And they scale extraordinarily well. And turns out power-tripping men offered raw power over other humans on threat of violence is something they like. And ICE? Remember J6 and Three Percenter's and all those right wing militias? They ended up in ICE. Same reasons.
A very bold claim I have heard repeatedly, backed up with zero evidence. Care to share any proof you have found?
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I want age verification but not at the OS level.
What would a world with your preferred age verification system look like?
And responses to some common criticisms of the idea: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46459959
I also forgot to mention in my original post that the token issuer is not a monopoly. Any company that wants to participate can do so, just like there are many brands of tobacco and alcohol. Require websites to accept at least 5 providers to ensure competition.
To be clear though if it's being used as wedge for privacy violation then it should not exist at all. And from reading TFA preventing that may need a similarly coordinated counter-effort.
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Because they want market share, and throwing a hissyfit over being asked to add an "I am over 18" checkbox is not good PR. If Debian starts refusing to work in California because it doesn't want to add a checkbox, it will simply be replaced by someone who adds that checkbox and doesn't throw the fit.
As the article says, it's not about just checking a box: "Every OS provider must then: provide an interface at account setup collecting a birth date or age, and expose a real-time API that broadcasts the user's age bracket (under 13, 13 to 15, 16 to 17, 18+) to any application running on the system."
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>Age signals from the OS? Need to provide a channel of information available to applications. Applications already talk to servers with unchecked commonality. This is a non-issue because it's almost certainly going to be gated behind a permission prompt. There are more invasive things sites/apps can ask for, and we seem to be doing fine, eg. location. Moreover is it really that much of a privacy loss if you go on ste…
> permission prompt Watch as apps refuse to work when you deny them permission. Also the OS (and “privileged apps”) don’t ask for permission, they have full unfettered access to everything already.
If you can't trust the OS, you have bigger issues than it knowing whether you're 18 or not. At the very least it has a camera pointed at you at all moments you're using it, and can eavesdrop in all your conversations.