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Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by overfeed »

comboy wrote: post #239
hmokiguess wrote: post #26

The fact that it took me the comments sections to understand this is satire speaks a lot about the current status of where things are going. EDIT: Reading it again its quite obvious, I was just skimming at first, but still damn. Hilarious

Under this name or not I think it's happening regardless..

As any etymology/Latin nerd will tell you, "this name" (MalusCorp) literally translates to EvilCorp, everything about the site is over the top satire. I know Poe's law and all that, but I'm looking askew at commenters in this thread who fail to realize it as either only reading the headline, or are AI-controlled.

Satire points out the absurd

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by RobRivera »

Twey wrote: post #230
modeless wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should welcome more precise law enforcement. Imperfect enforcement is too easy for law enforcement officers to turn into selective enforcement. By choosing who to go after, law enforcement gets the unearned power to change the law however they want, enforcing unwritten rules of their choosing. Having law enforcement make the laws is bad. The big caveat, though, is that when enforcement becomes more accurate, the r…

The problem with precise law enforcement is that the legal system is incredibly complex. There's a tagline that ‘everybody's a criminal’; I don't know if that's necessarily true but I do definitely believe that a large number of ‘innocent’ people are criminals (by the letter of the law) without their knowledge. Because we usually only bother to prosecute crimes if some obvious harm has been done this doesn't cause a…

Precise law enforcement would motivate political will to proactively law change to be more precise and appropriate, or tuned, to the public sentiment.

Imprecise law enforcement enables political office holders to arbitrarily leverage the law to arrest people they label as a political enemy, e.g. Aaron Swartz.

If everyone that ever shared publications outside the legal subscriber base was precisely arrested, charged, and punished, I dont think the punishment amd current legal terrain regarding the charges leveraged against him would have lasted.

But this is a feature, not a bug.

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by STRiDEX »

ragazzina wrote: post #241

Why only FOSS? Why not Wikipedia? You take Wikipedia, an LLM rewrites every single article giving them your preferred political spin and generates many more pictures for it. You make it sleeker, and price it at 4.99$ per month. EDIT: That's crazy. They already did that. Waiting for the torment nexus now I guess.

aren't you describing what elon already did https://grokipedia.com/

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by fabioborellini »

mushufasa wrote: post #3

"Change all your core software library dependencies to be unmaintained ripoff copies of those libraries." Sounds wise.....¡¡

Actually I have been told that replacements to (restricted subsets of) open source libraries, generated by LLM’s, vendored next to our code using the dependency, cannot be vulnerable since they don’t have cve’s, and therefore they don’t ever have to be maintained.

That’s how deep we are in neoliberal single truth shit now

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Post by hmry »

frenchie4111 wrote: post #99
hmokiguess wrote: post #26

The fact that it took me the comments sections to understand this is satire speaks a lot about the current status of where things are going. EDIT: Reading it again its quite obvious, I was just skimming at first, but still damn. Hilarious

lol - it's literally called malus but I guess that's only an obvious giveaway in retrospect

It's perfectly realistic!

E.g. Palantir, the surveillance analytics company named after the magic orb that purports to let you remotely view anything you want, but actually allows its creator to view you while manipulating you by selectively showing some things and not others.

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Post by b3n »

ragazzina wrote: post #241

Why only FOSS? Why not Wikipedia? You take Wikipedia, an LLM rewrites every single article giving them your preferred political spin and generates many more pictures for it. You make it sleeker, and price it at 4.99$ per month. EDIT: That's crazy. They already did that. Waiting for the torment nexus now I guess.

This was already done, see: Grokipedia.

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by tinier_subsets »

ahtihn wrote: post #222
seethishat wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with strictly enforcing the speed limit on roads is that sometimes, people must speed. They must break the law. Wife giving birth, rushing a wounded person to the ER, speeding to avoid a collision, etc. If we wanted to strictly enforce speed limits, we would put governors on engines. However, doing that would cause a lot of harm to normal people. That's why we don't do it. Stop and think about what it means…

> sometimes, people must speed. They must break the law. Wife giving birth, rushing a wounded person to the ER, speeding to avoid a collision I would argue that only the last one is a valid reason because it's the only one where it's clear that not speeding leads to direct worse consequences. Speed limits don't exist just to annoy people. Speeding increases the risk of accident and especially the consequences of an a…

The “wife giving birth” exception for speeding is always so amusing to me.

In the U.S., the average distance from a hospital is 10 miles (in a rural area). Assuming 55 mph speed limits, that means most people are 11 minutes from a hospital. Realistically, “speeding” in this scenario probably means something like 80 mph, so you cut your travel time to 7.5 minutes.

In other words, you just significantly increased your chances of killing your about to be born kid, your wife, yourself, and innocent bystanders just to potentially arrive at a hospital 210 seconds sooner.

Edit: the rushing someone to an ER scenario is possibly more ridiculous, since you can’t teleport yourself, and if the 3.5 minutes in the above scenario would make a difference, then driving someone to the ER is a significantly worse option than starting first aid while waiting for EMTs to arrive.

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Post by mcherm »

fladrif wrote: post #141
karel-3d wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a satire. The authors presented it at FOSDEM. They are people that worked previously for foss communities.

Satire is too dangerous to be presented outside of its community. This honestly should've been left within FOSDEM. It's great within the context of people who understand it, enlightening even. Sparks conversations and debates. But outside of it ignorance wields it like a bludgeon and dangerous to everyone around them. Look at all the satirical media around fascism, if you knew to criticize you could laugh, but for fa…

No one who understands the first thing about this topic could possibly have read that web page and not realized that it was satire.

"Those maintainers worked for free—why should they get credit?"

"Your shareholders didn't invest in your company so you could help strangers."

"For the first time, a way to avoid giving that pesky credit to maintainers."

"Full legal indemnification [...] through our offshore subsidiary in a jurisdiction that doesn't recognize software copyright"

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

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Post by lukev »

ragazzina wrote: post #241

Why only FOSS? Why not Wikipedia? You take Wikipedia, an LLM rewrites every single article giving them your preferred political spin and generates many more pictures for it. You make it sleeker, and price it at 4.99$ per month. EDIT: That's crazy. They already did that. Waiting for the torment nexus now I guess.

So Grokipedia?
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