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Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by shadowgovt »

cityofdelusion wrote: post #142
nkzd wrote: post #114

What if English is my second language? Undoubtedly being well spoken is associated with higher class. Your arguments will come of as stronger to the reader.

This effect is very rapidly vanishing. Well written English is starting to be seen as snobbish and AI-slop especially with younger generations growing up with AI. The human touch of someone’s real voice myself, rather than a false veneer will carry more weight very soon.

Trust me, it won't last because I've seen the cycle a couple of times. People pay lip-service to being accepting of variant grammar, but then the downvotes show up.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by nottorp »

chrystianpl wrote: post #82

As English is my second language and as I have dyslexia. I was just wondering what do you mean by "AI-edited comments"? I can't ask an llm to check if I have made correct grammar/fix it and then as I was on other account, down-voted because of my styling/grammar, not because of the content?

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work."

I wonder if an explicit expansion of that rule would help. Maybe in all caps. Saying "picking on grammar is a shallow dismissal".

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by bachittle »

If you want your comments to sound more human — stop using em dashes everywhere. LLMs love them — along with neat structure, “furthermore”-style transitions, and perfectly balanced paragraphs.

Humans write a bit messier — commas, short sentences, abrupt turns.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by danbrooks »

dustycyanide wrote: post #140
resiros wrote: post #119

Not sure I agree with the AI edited comments. Using AI to improve the readability and clarity is fine. Sometimes a well structured comment is much better than a braindump that reads like ramblings. And AI is quite good at it (and probably will get better). To make the point, here is how this comment would have looked if edited: "I don't fully agree with banning AI-edited comments. Using AI to improve readability and…

I prefer your non-edited version. My brain automatically starts to zone out with the AI edited version, side effect of having read way too much AI text

I also prefer the original version - the AI version has a strange vibe.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by skeledrew »

khazhoux wrote: post #45
iammjm wrote: post #15

I believe the issue of proving who is and who isn't really human on the Internet will be a really important issue in the coming years, especially without sacrificing people's right to privacy and anonymity in the process.

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Why?

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by bondarchuk »

All the weak excuses posted here are just making me lean more towards a hardline policy. No I don't want to read a human-generated summary of your llm brainstorming session. No I don't want to read human-written text with wording changes suggested by an llm. No I don't want to read an excerpt from llm output even if you correctly attribute it.

I acknowledge this is partly just my personal bias, in some cases really not fair, and unenforceable anyway, but someone relying on llms just makes me feel like they have... bad taste in information curation, or something, and I'd rather just not interact with them at all.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by eudamoniac »

schappim wrote: post #51

I have a kid with severe written language issues, and the utilisation of STT w/ a LLM-powered edit has unlocked a whole world that was previously inaccessible. What is amazing is it would have remained so just a couple of years ago!

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by [deleted] »

resiros wrote: post #119

Not sure I agree with the AI edited comments. Using AI to improve the readability and clarity is fine. Sometimes a well structured comment is much better than a braindump that reads like ramblings. And AI is quite good at it (and probably will get better). To make the point, here is how this comment would have looked if edited: "I don't fully agree with banning AI-edited comments. Using AI to improve readability and…

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by altairprime »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #134

Yes! This is really great feature, at the very least there being some proper Hackernews guidelines about it. In my observation, recently there are quite many new AI generated comments in general. Like not even trying to hide with full em-dashes and everything. I do feel like people are gonna get sneaky in future but there are going to be multiple discussions about that within this thread. But I find it pretty cool th…

Posting accusations of guidelines violations as comments — specifically, “did you write your comment by LLM” — is already prohibited by the guidelines, and should be emailed to the mods instead using the footer contact links. It’s been less than a week since the last time I reported “this seems poorly written and/or AI written” to the mods and iirc they killed the post and account within a couple hours.

Similarly: If you see people making accusations of guidelines violations in a discussion, email the thread link to the mods with a subject like “Accusations in post discussion” and ask them to evaluate them for mod response; they’re always happy to do so and I’m easily clocking in a couple hundred emails a year of that sort to them.

It doesn’t take much to make HN better! And it only takes a moment to point out an overlooked corner of threads for mod review. No need to present a full legal case, just “FYI this seems to violate guideline xyz” is at minimum still helpful.

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