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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#141

I think using AI for a bit more potent spellchecking or style hints is... fine, honestly. I don't usually do it, you can tell from all the silly spelling mistakes I do. But a bit more polishing for your posts is a good thing, not a bad one, as long as it doesn't hide your voice.

You do all of that when leaving a comment on HN? Why...?

I'm confused by this need(?) desire(?) to polish things that are irrelevant.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#142
post #114

What if English is my second language? Undoubtedly being well spoken is associated with higher class. Your arguments will come of as stronger to the reader.

This effect is very rapidly vanishing. Well written English is starting to be seen as snobbish and AI-slop especially with younger generations growing up with AI.

The human touch of someone’s real voice myself, rather than a false veneer will carry more weight very soon.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#143

"AI-edited comments" is a very interesting one. Where is the line between a spelling/grammar/tone checker like Grammarly, that at minimum use N-Grams behind the scenes, and something that is "AI" edited? What I am asking is, is "AI" in this context fully featured LLMs, or anything that improves communication via an automated system. I think many people have used these "advanced" spellcheckers for years before Chatgpt…

i don't care if someone has bad grammar, i want to hear their thoughts as they came up with them, we're all intelligent beings and can parse the meaning behind what you write.

i type my comments without capitalization like i'm typing into some terminal because i'm lazy and people might hate it but i'm sure they prefer this to if i asked an LLM to rewrite what i type

your writing style is your personality, don't let a robot take it away from you

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#144

One thing that will be incredibly useful is to limit comments from brand new accounts. A combination of vouching, limiting the posts velocity (5 daily limit), clear rules for new accounts, etc. I understand we often see insightful comments from new accounts, but I always find it suspicious when non-throwaway accounts are created just in time only to make a quip.

I assumed that was how new people were encouraged to join in the first place!

https://xkcd.com/386/ "Duty Calls"

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#145
I don't get it. We use tools to assist in written communication all the time. If someone wants to ask an LLM to check their grammar or edit for clarity or change the tone, it's still a conversation between humans. Everyone now has access to a real time editor or scribe who can craft their message the way they want it to sound before sending it off. Great.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#146

Agree, AI generated articles & comments provide little to none value other than the original prompt. Please just post the original prompt instead.

Here is where I'd like to push back just a little. Not all AI prompting is expanding the prompt. What if the original prompt is 1000 words, includes 10 scientific articles by reference (boosting it up to 10000) , and the AI helps to boil it down to 100 words instead? I'd argue that this is probably a rather more responsible usage of the tools. And rather more pleasant to read besides. Whether it meets the criterion i…

Use your brain and summarize the article yourself if it's of such great importance. Why should I care to read it if you can't be bothered to actually write it?

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#147

Agree, AI generated articles & comments provide little to none value other than the original prompt. Please just post the original prompt instead.

It's not just AI-generated articles -- it's the other things that we delve into as a result. Listicles. Comments. Posts. It's what it means to be human, and honestly? That's rare.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#148
post #114

What if English is my second language? Undoubtedly being well spoken is associated with higher class. Your arguments will come of as stronger to the reader.

What you really have to ask is will this community be less inclusive because English isn't your first language, I'd say "no" and I hope most would agree.

> Your arguments will come of as stronger to the reader.

That is persuasian, not authenticity, to the OP's point.

Typed without a spellchecker :).

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#149

The only question is is the entity interesting and/or correct. Those properties are in the eye of the beholder. If they're human or not is beside the point. After all, no one knows I'm a dog.

> The only question is is the entity interesting and/or correct. This already falls apart though. There are while categories of things which I find "incorrect" and would take up as an argument with a fellow human. But trying to change the mind of an LLM just feels like a waste of my time.

Instead of wanting to change the mind of the other entity, how about focusing on coming to a mutual understanding of what is "correct"? That way it shouldn't matter much if said entity is human, LLM or dog. Unless you're just arguing to push your "correct" on other humans, with little care about their "correct".
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