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Post by john_strinlai »

ectospheno wrote: post #18
p0w3n3d wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/bmw-commits-to-subscriptions-e...

"But while BMW ultimately backed down over heated seats, the company still believes in the features-as-a-service model, and will continue to offer post-purchase upgrades through its ConnectedDrive platform. "

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Post by andsoitis »

vitaflo wrote: post #28
andsoitis wrote: post #7

> live TV Does anyone watch linear TV other than for sport and news? Everything else (movies, TV shows) is through streaming apps, no?

We only watch OTA TV and have no streaming services so I guess the answer is yes.

Cool. Do you have a favorite new TV show that you’re watching currently and that you’d recommend?

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Post by lpcvoid »

I have a rooted LG WebOS TV. It's really nice. I can ssh into it. It's on a dedicated VLAN which has all LG domains and IP firewalled off. It can connect to Youtube, using a version of the Youtube app with integrated adblocker and sponsorblock. It's absolute superb.

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Post by zvqcMMV6Zcr »

steveBK123 wrote: post #11
bilekas wrote: post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

I would also like to know the answer here because I see similar slop across brands/prices/sizes/generations of TV now.. its inescapable

It is totally bonkers. For long time the low tech recommendation (without setting rules on router/firewall) was to never connect TV to network, and use cheap TV box, to use streaming services. And then community's favorite - TiVo - started to show their own ads. Everything based on Android TV is also hit or miss. And might get enshitified with an update at any time. I think NVidia Shield is the only device other than AppleTV that works as expected. Only it didn't have an hardware upgrade in 5+ years.

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Post by nszceta »

dwedge wrote: post #20
imglorp wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, never give a TV internet access now. That's where we are. This means they can't surveil, brick, or change your hardware after you bought it. So yes, then add whatever dongles to provide content. If the dongle turns bad (evil), chuck it and get a different kind. You preserve your privacy, hardware ownership rights, and freedom to choose.

One of the main aims of 5G rollout was for the eventual inclusion of sims in these devices

For 5G enabled devices the medicine is to cut the antenna off

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Post by greatpatton »

aerhardt wrote: post #24
ectospheno wrote: post #10

Once I verify a home video product works as intended I remove its network connection and never connect it again. I then leave its static ip address configured and block any traffic from it on the off chance it’s ever connected again. The sole exception is my PlayStation 5. I use apps on it for all streaming.

I also had to take this approach with my LG TV. The OS actually had its use for a while but Apple TV has become my driver. I no longer wish to consent to LG’s EULAs which are starting to look like the legal corpus of a small nation. I’m also not interested in their software updates. Internet privileges: revoked. It’s concerning nonetheless as others are pointing out that in the current trajectory the TVs may soon ref…

It's simple: not buying them is the way. There is enough competition to just buy a screen that will not do that.

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Post by gruez »

dwedge wrote: post #20
imglorp wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, never give a TV internet access now. That's where we are. This means they can't surveil, brick, or change your hardware after you bought it. So yes, then add whatever dongles to provide content. If the dongle turns bad (evil), chuck it and get a different kind. You preserve your privacy, hardware ownership rights, and freedom to choose.

One of the main aims of 5G rollout was for the eventual inclusion of sims in these devices

I'll believe it when I see it. The numbers simply don't pencil out. Streaming ads over cellular networks is going to be insanely expensive at rates that IOT/esim providers are currently offering. Not to mention that most people would connect to wifi anyways so they can watch neflix or whatever without a second device. If a 5G module costs $25 but only 10% of people actually never connect to wifi, you're basically paying $250 just to get that incremental customer connected.

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Post by globular-toast »

If someone was offering you a sweet but in exchange they punched you in the face, you'd probably question whether the sweet was really worth it. Unless, of course, you're addicted to the sweets.

Time to kick the addiction. Seek out ways to spend your time that are good for you and/or others.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Post by greatpatton »

john_strinlai wrote: post #31
ectospheno wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/bmw-commits-to-subscriptions-e... "But while BMW ultimately backed down over heated seats, the company still believes in the features-as-a-service model, and will continue to offer post-purchase upgrades through its ConnectedDrive platform. "

And then they will complain that Chinese company are simply crushing them... As a European, I have been buying only Asian cars for ages as I don't want to play their "add options" game, and I think that more and more people are tired of that.
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