Live data from Hacker News

Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

guru3d.com

11–20 of 155 posts

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#11
post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

I would also like to know the answer here because I see similar slop across brands/prices/sizes/generations of TV now.. its inescapable

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#12
post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

Right, never give a TV internet access now. That's where we are.

This means they can't surveil, brick, or change your hardware after you bought it.

So yes, then add whatever dongles to provide content. If the dongle turns bad (evil), chuck it and get a different kind. You preserve your privacy, hardware ownership rights, and freedom to choose.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#13
post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

> an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely

Had this setup on different tvs for 10+ years, can confirm it is excellent.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#14
post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

> Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

At least until TV makers wise up to that strategy and build a TV that requires internet access to unlock the HDMI port, that's the way to go.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#15
post #5

Worth it for the price though. A 100" Hisense can be had for $1k now at Best Buy. Would have been a $20,000 TV 10 years ago.

At 100" the packaging, shipping from china, the delivery, etc. add have to be so much more than $1k.

I bought a 100" TV with setup and it was only $1600. I don't know how they make money on that with all the logistics required. Two people for delivery, two different people for the wall hanging, all the materials for the packaging, and that is just to get it to my house.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#17

Once I verify a home video product works as intended I remove its network connection and never connect it again. I then leave its static ip address configured and block any traffic from it on the off chance it’s ever connected again. The sole exception is my PlayStation 5. I use apps on it for all streaming.

This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#18
post #17

Once I verify a home video product works as intended I remove its network connection and never connect it again. I then leave its static ip address configured and block any traffic from it on the off chance it’s ever connected again. The sole exception is my PlayStation 5. I use apps on it for all streaming.

This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

For now

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#20
post #12
post #6

Ughh.. I recently turned on my 1000EUR+ LG Oled TV to find that it had automatically installed a Copilot app.. And keeps doing it every few days. Is there any smart TV that I can actually just use a TV how I want? Or am I reduced to buying an Apple TV device and unplugging the TV from the internet entirely ?

Right, never give a TV internet access now. That's where we are. This means they can't surveil, brick, or change your hardware after you bought it. So yes, then add whatever dongles to provide content. If the dongle turns bad (evil), chuck it and get a different kind. You preserve your privacy, hardware ownership rights, and freedom to choose.

One of the main aims of 5G rollout was for the eventual inclusion of sims in these devices
Post reply on HN