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Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by cpard »

I get the value of a personal CRM and potential power of having one locally managed by LLMs and I'd love to see such a solution, because to your point, outreach is just a small part of what you can do with a personal CRM. But, the way you describe and deliver this project is very confusing to me, it's a CRM but also Cursor for your Mac (what does that even mean?), I already run Cursor on my Mac, it also has a file tree view to use it as a better MacOS find I guess?

I think that a much cleaner messaging on what this tool is for would help.

Also a question about the implementation, why DuckDB for a CRM?

Something like SQLite feels like a much natural fit for a CRM where you primarily create, update and maybe delete records and you really care for the integrity of the data model.

From a quick look on the data model, everything seems to be a VARCHAR, if this is the case, why not just store everything in the file system instead? You do that with the md files and whatever is getting extracted from the SaaS tools.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

#104

Post by fnord77 »

Are people using bottomless VC money to fund the API calls for these *Claw things?

I first tried OpenClaw with a local model, it gave poor performance. Then I tried it with Claude - great but it blew through hundreds of dollars in tokens in about an hour.

Or is everybody a billionaire now?

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

#106

Post by waterproof »

fnord77 wrote: post #104

Are people using bottomless VC money to fund the API calls for these *Claw things? I first tried OpenClaw with a local model, it gave poor performance. Then I tried it with Claude - great but it blew through hundreds of dollars in tokens in about an hour. Or is everybody a billionaire now?

Lots of folks use the Claude Max 20x $200/mo. tier, I think. Gets you waaay farther than $200 of API credits.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

#107

Post by kumareth »

john_strinlai wrote: post #75
kumar_abhirup wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get why it looks that way from the CRM angle, but outreach is maybe 5% of what I actually use DenchClaw for day to day. Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchClaw)…

> but outreach is maybe 5% of what I actually use DenchClaw for day to day. will you be enforcing the same for the users of your product? if not, i am not sure how this statement addresses the above concerns.

How do you enforce this on an open source github project?

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

#108

Post by dncornholio »

himmi-01 wrote: post #94
kumar_abhirup wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, I get why it looks that way from the CRM angle, but outreach is maybe 5% of what I actually use DenchClaw for day to day. Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchC…

I think this explanation is much easier to grasp :). And simpler to introduce to people, as many of the tech people still prefer better UX.

It's an advertisement mate.

Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw

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Post by bhasinanant »

cpard wrote: post #101

I get the value of a personal CRM and potential power of having one locally managed by LLMs and I'd love to see such a solution, because to your point, outreach is just a small part of what you can do with a personal CRM. But, the way you describe and deliver this project is very confusing to me, it's a CRM but also Cursor for your Mac (what does that even mean?), I already run Cursor on my Mac, it also has a file tr…

I'm definitely biased here, but the OpenClaw hype is making people disregard the economics of it all. Building Auto-CRM.com, my primary concern was building a system that runs well while not costing 200$ per month to keep up, and of course, while also maintaining security. I assume the good guys at Folk, Pipedrive, etc also had similarly priorities. A lot of good work is being done within the OpenClaw ecosystem regarding RAG and memory, but specialised orchestration process to be a more reliable system.
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