At what point does this become an AI powered spamming machine?
Become? I believe that’s the point.
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Become? I believe that’s the point.
Cold calling is not 'spam' because it is essentially done by a human. This is no different than an email spam network. So now this will just become email / linkedin spam done by corporations? I guess we turn up the filters now?
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The way imports work in DenchClaw is a bit unconventional, when you tell it to "import my HubSpot", the agent literally opens your browser (using the copied Chrome profile), navigates to HubSpot, triggers the export, and then ingests the downloaded files into the workspace DuckDB. So the bottleneck isn't really a fat in-memory ETL... it's more like processing a CSV/JSON export file on disk. For the DuckDB side specif…
What’s stopping the agent from doing literally any other thing in HubSpot? You know, small stuff like editing/deleting records, sensing emails, launching marketing campaigns, deleting reports, etc.
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#34I just use plain-text files for my CRM in Obsidian [1]. Works great if you are a solo founder only. [1] https://www.ssp.sh/brain/managing-my-business-with-obsidian/
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> DenchClaw finds your Chrome Profile and copies it fully into its own, so you won’t have to log in into all your websites again. DenchClaw sees what you see, does what you do. It’s an everything app, that sits locally on your mac. Wow that sounds great. Hey don't worry these things never blackmail anyone. Let it know if you're gonna turn it off, I bet it'll make some REAL interesting choices based on your browsing h…
I'm always confused by this kind of comment about AI accessing people's chrome history because it seems to imply that the kind of person who uses this tool is both too stupid to know what private browsing is and also is into absolutely heinous stuff. I feel like the average person is going to be like "oh no it'd be terrible if everyone found out I really like the 'big boobs' category on pornhub"
Finally we'll want to know about disputes you've had with intimate partners, employers and other service providers, especially powerful ones like healthcare, insurance and financial organisations.
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#36One on hand, this is genuinely cool. On the other end, this is the final nail in cold outreach's coffin.
Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchClaw), manage my calendar, search through old Notion pages I forgot existed.
The CRM part gets attention because that's what people asked for when we talked to power users. But the actual product is just "OpenClaw with a good UI, a file system, and DuckDB, running locally on your Mac." It does whatever you'd normally do on your computer. The browser is yours, the files are yours, the data never leaves your machine.
Think of it less as a sales tool and more as what happens when your entire Mac becomes programmable through natural language. The CRM is one app that runs on top of that. People are already using it for project management, research, personal knowledge bases, all kinds of stuff we didn't plan for.
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#37At what point does this become an AI powered spamming machine?
Yesterday I asked it to pull up all my meeting notes from last week, cross-reference them with my task list, and draft follow-ups. Before that I had it reorganize a messy folder of research PDFs into a structured workspace. I use it to build slides, write code (DenchClaw literally built DenchClaw), manage my calendar, search through old Notion pages I forgot existed.
The CRM part gets attention because that's what people asked for when we talked to power users. But the actual product is just "OpenClaw with a good UI, a file system, and DuckDB, running locally on your Mac." It does whatever you'd normally do on your computer. The browser is yours, the files are yours, the data never leaves your machine.
Think of it less as a sales tool and more as what happens when your entire Mac becomes programmable through natural language. The CRM is one app that runs on top of that. People are already using it for project management, research, personal knowledge bases, all kinds of stuff we didn't plan for.
Re: Show HN: DenchClaw – Local CRM on Top of OpenClaw
#38I just use plain-text files for my CRM in Obsidian [1]. Works great if you are a solo founder only. [1] https://www.ssp.sh/brain/managing-my-business-with-obsidian/
Thanks for sharing.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cold calling is not 'spam' because it is essentially done by a human. This is no different than an email spam network. So now this will just become email / linkedin spam done by corporations? I guess we turn up the filters now?
Just because a human gets paid to sit at a computer calling random people doesn't absolve them of a spam title.
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The way imports work in DenchClaw is a bit unconventional, when you tell it to "import my HubSpot", the agent literally opens your browser (using the copied Chrome profile), navigates to HubSpot, triggers the export, and then ingests the downloaded files into the workspace DuckDB. So the bottleneck isn't really a fat in-memory ETL... it's more like processing a CSV/JSON export file on disk. For the DuckDB side specif…
> The way imports work in DenchClaw is a bit unconventional, when you tell it to "import my HubSpot", the agent literally opens your browser (using the copied Chrome profile), navigates to HubSpot, triggers the export, and then ingests the downloaded files into the workspace DuckDB. What’s stopping the agent from doing literally any other thing in HubSpot? You know, small stuff like editing/deleting records, sensing…
Ideally for these pursposes, I would ALWAYS use Claude Opus 4.6 for this stuff, personally I have never seen it do unintended things to that extent.
Also, when the browser opens you can supervise it doing the thing, since you can see what its doing, you can always stop it if it ever goes wrong.