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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by marxisttemp »

yuestion wrote: post #224
CactusBlue wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you feel about the recent communication failures from the team to the userbase? As another builder of an open-source social platform, we must all understand that it is paramount for any company to not antagonize its customers, doubly so for a SOCIAL platform. I do understand that Bluesky and ATProto has to deal with a lot of baggage from both the old userbase and the new influx from the X/Twitter exodus, but e…

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

They should focus on implementing ActivityPub instead of their useless proprietary protocol

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by danabramov »

marxisttemp wrote: post #231
yuestion wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

They should focus on implementing ActivityPub instead of their useless proprietary protocol

It's not "proprietary", it's openly specified and is literally being taken to IETF: https://docs.bsky.app/blog/taking-at-to-ietf

Also, unlike ActivityPub, it's actually useful for building features that normal people expect from social apps — for example, algorithmic feeds and search, and a single interlinked world (rather than fragmented "servers").

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by Levitz »

mossTechnician wrote: post #179
Levitz wrote: post #165

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The central complaint isn't "distaste" because you can't call for someone to be banned because of a "distaste". "Jesse Singal has distributed private medical information on Bluesky without the consent of the patient" translates to publishing a quote from a patient included in a therapist's letter of support for hormones. The problem in this situation is that the complaint itself as well as the whole drama surrounding…

Distributing private medical information without consent is a violation of Bluesky's terms. And to me, that sounds like a much more concrete example of someone being a bully.

>“Don’t use Bluesky Social to break the law or cause harm to others,”

Is this, quoted in the change.org, the relevant line?

The law was not broken, it is also fairly evident that the intention was not to "cause harm to others", nor has any harm has seemingly come upon the patient for this (it requires a huge stretch of imagination to think of a case in which it could)

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

CactusBlue wrote: post #229
yuestion wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

As a startup founder, your userbase is your god. Either treat them with utmost respect, or learn to explicitly fire your customers.

You have more than one user base.

You have to make hard product decisions about which user bases to serve.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by CactusBlue »

marxisttemp wrote: post #231
yuestion wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

They should focus on implementing ActivityPub instead of their useless proprietary protocol

Eh, AP has its own sets of problems (underspecified protocol, split-brained on discoverability, new developments are met with hostility in the community)

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by rvz »

jeromegv wrote: post #109
rvz wrote: post #41

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What did Mastodon win exactly? Threads being the biggest Mastodon instance and federating with mastodon.social (Meta signed contracts with instance maintainers to do so) and the other 3 largest instances (Pawoo, baragg (d_o_t) net, and mstdn (d-o-t) jp) taking up more that >70% of the total users using it? That doesn't sound good. The CEO sold all of us out and was the only one that made real money on Mastodon.

In what world did the Mastodon CEO made money out of Mastodon beside the small public salary he's been taking? You are making things up.

> In what world did the Mastodon CEO made money out of Mastodon beside the small public salary he's been taking?

Here on Earth, Europe, Germany, Berlin, Mastodon GmbH.

So he didn't tell you that he got a €1M one-off payment from Mastodon? [0]

> You are making things up.

It is true. [0]

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/18/mastodon-ceo-steps-down-as...

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by yuestion »

CactusBlue wrote: post #229
yuestion wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.

As a startup founder, your userbase is your god. Either treat them with utmost respect, or learn to explicitly fire your customers.

If they want to remain a niche echo-chamber platform rather than become a major social network, that would be an appropriate strategy. However, I expect they have higher ambitions.

What they should also do is redesign (or remove) the "nuclear block" feature. In its current state, it helps perpetuate a hostile and exclusionary atmosphere to new users, which isn't going to help Bluesky grow an active and diverse userbase.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by CactusBlue »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #234
CactusBlue wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a startup founder, your userbase is your god. Either treat them with utmost respect, or learn to explicitly fire your customers.

You have more than one user base. You have to make hard product decisions about which user bases to serve.

Then explicitly refuse service, instead of mocking your userbase.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by danabramov »

marxisttemp wrote: post #230
arcalinea wrote: post #71

Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Officer). Toni has been an advisor to us for years, and I personally recruited him to take over as CEO while I focus on new projects within the company. It's an honor to have him on board to lead us into this next stage of growth.

Why did you deliberately steal Mastodon’s thunder? Why don’t you support ActivityPub?

ActivityPub does not solve any of the stated goals of atproto.

Comparing ActivityPub with atproto is like pitting Email against Web. These are just differently shaped solutions to differently shaped problems.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by naasking »

mossTechnician wrote: post #225
zdragnar wrote: post #190

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Is it private if it is in a public affidavit?

In my opinion, inappropriately leaked information should probably still be considered private, even if it was made publicly accessible. But even if not, Singal says the same leaker directly contacted him with a new leak, which he also published.

> In my opinion, inappropriately leaked information should probably be considered private.

How is that relevant to BSky's terms of service? The information was public and did not identify the person.

> But even if not, Singal says the same leaker directly contacted him with a new leak, which he also published.

I notice that you didn't say whether this new leak was private information, or whether it was also already public knowledge, or whether it in any way identified a person.

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