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Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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post #4

Unfortunately necessary. Essentially every girl I know has had at least one bad experience with a creepy uber driver. These are people that are entering their address and often their workplace into the app. It's a big reason why a lot of my friends are picking Waymos instead.

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Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#112
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to develop some empathy and learn that false accusations can destroy lives and families. You have no right to force someone accept even a 1% chance that something like that happens, even if it's less prevalent than assaults.

they didnt say false accusations dont happen, or that they arent harmful, or that anyone should be forced to do anything. you read what you wanted to read, instead of what was actually written

It looked to me like RajT88 was participating in a rebuttal of SoftTalker's comment. I don't think that interpretation is "reading what you wanted to read". The place you put a comment has implications for what you're arguing.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#113
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be hilarious if women formed their own closed rideshare economy; they'd discover that they demand much higher prices from each other than they get from men.

It would be funny if the market showed women were willing to pay a premium to avoid being raped?

After figuring that they are paying more than males, they would be protesting against "rideshare gap"

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#114

Absolutely wild that none of the dissenting comments suggest a means of lowering or eliminating sexual harassment of women passengers. Why not start there? Get creative.

So when you read Uber’s annual safety reports you didn’t see anything in this vein, either as actions taken or changes in statistics?

I'm talking about the comments here. Like yours that would rather shoot the messenger than actually make a positive change in the world.

It sounds like you'd rather I shut up, then you know, actually do something.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#115

Absolutely wild that none of the dissenting comments suggest a means of lowering or eliminating sexual harassment of women passengers. Why not start there? Get creative.

Do you have any compelling ideas on how to do that? I don't think it's 'wild' that people criticizing a company action aren't starting their comments with "here's how I'd fix society".

I'm fine with the fix. My point is to those who aren't. Suggest something better.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#117
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This incident is creepy enough that I would also not agree to a give a random stranger a ride home, absent any additional context or mitigations. Maybe to avoid waking up in an ice bath with my liver gone. But, to not give a ride because of some perceived idea that they would claim you assaulted them or something is a bit "this person should go touch some grass" or whatever.

The world we live in is one where women being assaulted is an order of magnitude larger problem than women falsely accusing someone of assault.

In addition, your chance of being falsely accused is low. Your chance of being prosecuted if you are falsely accused is low. Your chance of being convicted, if you are falsely accused AND prosecuted is low. Also, the accuser's chance of being prosecuted for making the false allegation isn't that low.

We're talking about less than 100 cases per year. The real thing to be worried about is a false conviction for drugs or DUI. That happens way more often.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This incident is creepy enough that I would also not agree to a give a random stranger a ride home, absent any additional context or mitigations. Maybe to avoid waking up in an ice bath with my liver gone. But, to not give a ride because of some perceived idea that they would claim you assaulted them or something is a bit "this person should go touch some grass" or whatever.

I've got to ask. Is this kind of violent crime common or perceived as common in the US? If a stranger asked me for a ride home here my first thought wouldn't be that they want to attack me.

The US has a pervasive culture of fear. It's a big part of why guns are so popular.

I have had countless discussions with americans about guns that go along the lines of "What happens if (insert extremely rare violent incident) happens?" and they all literally seem unable to comprehend that these are just not things I even think about at all, and they really shouldn't either given how extremely rare they all are.

But a huge percentage of the population does worry about being victimised constantly.

It is the main reason that despite the obvious financial benefits and my love for certain landscapes/areas of the US I've never had the slightest desire to move there.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

#120
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not even as close to as smart of a gotcha as you think it is.

Despite being only ~49% of the population, men commit: Around 79-80% of violent crimes (based on victim perceptions of offenders in National Crime Victimization Survey data and arrest statistics for violent offenses). 80%+ of arrests for violent crimes in older FBI Uniform Crime Reports breakdowns (e.g., 80.1% in 2012 data, with consistent patterns in later years). ~88-90% of homicides/murders (e.g., 88% of known mur…

> How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..."

It is not and that's why it is so hard to defend any kind of filtration based on gender.

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