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Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by Der_Einzige »

_cenw wrote: post #12
mothballed wrote: post #5

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That's not even as close to as smart of a gotcha as you think it is.

Despite being only ~49% of the population, men commit:

Around 79-80% of violent crimes (based on victim perceptions of offenders in National Crime Victimization Survey data and arrest statistics for violent offenses).

80%+ of arrests for violent crimes in older FBI Uniform Crime Reports breakdowns (e.g., 80.1% in 2012 data, with consistent patterns in later years).

~88-90% of homicides/murders (e.g., 88% of known murder offenders in 2019 FBI data; similar in recent years where males dominate offender stats for murder).

How is this any different to "Despite making up only 13% of the population..." - https://knowyourmeme.com/sensitive/memes/despite-being-only-...

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by irl_zebra »

SoftTalker wrote: post #21
mholm wrote: post #4

Unfortunately necessary. Essentially every girl I know has had at least one bad experience with a creepy uber driver. These are people that are entering their address and often their workplace into the app. It's a big reason why a lot of my friends are picking Waymos instead.

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This incident is creepy enough that I would also not agree to a give a random stranger a ride home, absent any additional context or mitigations. Maybe to avoid waking up in an ice bath with my liver gone. But, to not give a ride because of some perceived idea that they would claim you assaulted them or something is a bit "this person should go touch some grass" or whatever.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by sanswork »

GaryBluto wrote: post #27
glouwbug wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women's only gyms and hours exist already. If there's a need, and they feel safer this way, let them have it

> they feel safer this way, What if somebody started a Whites-only gym because it made them feel safer?

Are there many assaults on uber passengers because they are white? Are there many assaults on uber passengers because they are women? There is your answer.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by hexyl_C_gut »

glouwbug wrote: post #15
hexyl_C_gut wrote: post #6

If this form of discrimination is ok, can we get other filters?

Women's only gyms and hours exist already. If there's a need, and they feel safer this way, let them have it

If people feel safer with white only gyms, can people have that?

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by taurath »

SoftTalker wrote: post #21
mholm wrote: post #4

Unfortunately necessary. Essentially every girl I know has had at least one bad experience with a creepy uber driver. These are people that are entering their address and often their workplace into the app. It's a big reason why a lot of my friends are picking Waymos instead.

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When faced with the choice of trusting a stranger, you turned it down, then made the decision about the lack of trust in the world?

Trust in strangers has never been easy in the US. If something is to change, it has to start individually.

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by EGreg »

irl_zebra wrote: post #32
SoftTalker wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This incident is creepy enough that I would also not agree to a give a random stranger a ride home, absent any additional context or mitigations. Maybe to avoid waking up in an ice bath with my liver gone. But, to not give a ride because of some perceived idea that they would claim you assaulted them or something is a bit "this person should go touch some grass" or whatever.

Interesting

One of you is afraid that YOU are going to get assaulted or worse.

The other is afraid you’re going to get ACCUSED of it.

What has this society become?

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by nathanaldensr »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #18

The real problem is that this is necessary. This same thing that keeps on happening when we try to reinvent things "without all that stuff that just adds friction." As with software, one should understand the underlying reasons for constraints in the old system before building the second one. Banking -> crypto and NFT "without all that stuff..." -> wash trading. Taxi service -> Uber "without all that employer stuff..…

Hardly a rant. You're just describing the "move fast and break things" ethic (or should I say unethic). Or said another way: "all of the convenience with none of the responsibility."

Re: Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US

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Post by waterhouse »

GaryBluto wrote: post #27
glouwbug wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women's only gyms and hours exist already. If there's a need, and they feel safer this way, let them have it

> they feel safer this way, What if somebody started a Whites-only gym because it made them feel safer?

If Whites had, on average, 2.5 standard deviations lower upper-body strength than non-Whites, then maybe.
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