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Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#71
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This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

The title is the issue. They're just asking for group chats with Claude

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#72
post #5

"A slack that doesn't suck" doesn't exist, and whoever thinks Anthropic of all people are going to build that has no idea how this is going to work. Slack has massive lock in due to cross-organization connections. The only way you're going to get people off slack is to build a 10x better mode for collaboration than river of shit chat, and while such models probably exist, you also have to convince people that they ar…

There was a guy here plugging his slack alternative that was heavily AI based and people here loved it. I don't remember the name unfortunately

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#74
post #47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Slack won't open up their data moat to AI, which is shameful. Ah yes. It's shameful that Slack won't open data moat to AI. You know, those millions of chats (including private data) by people who didn't give consent to this

> You know, those millions of chats (including private data) by people who didn't give consent to this I'm pretty sure the company you work for owns your work chat, and that what you say on company slack constitutes business information. There are a lot of things people don't consent to. Being born. Breathing in the air molecules that come from other people's bodies. Looking at ugly things. Hearing annoying sounds. I…

> It'll be okay.

Could there ever exist anything that wouldn't be okay? What's the difference between something that will be okay and something that won't? I'm guessing the things that will be okay are the things that might pose an obstacle for AI "progress".

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#75

yes, that's just what I want; The SlopDaddy supreme to make a chat app that will be used by billion-dollar corporations for often sensitive and mission-critical communications. What could possibly go wrong?

Why do you care so much? Do you have life changing equity or are part of the founding team? Or are you just an employee expense line item?

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#77
Slack has a very permissive data export policy, as long as you are doing it for your own organization's data. What they don't allow is blanket access for third party tools.

So there is nothing stopping you from taking all your company's Slack data in real time and feeding it into any LLM or external product you want.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#79
post #5

"A slack that doesn't suck" doesn't exist, and whoever thinks Anthropic of all people are going to build that has no idea how this is going to work. Slack has massive lock in due to cross-organization connections. The only way you're going to get people off slack is to build a 10x better mode for collaboration than river of shit chat, and while such models probably exist, you also have to convince people that they ar…

How google hasn't been able to do this with messenger is beyond me. The external partners on our slack are almost all logged in via gmail or other google workspace. We are on google workspace as well.

Google decided to build a new chat app every two years instead of keeping the good bits of the original chat app they had and evolving it. It was endlessly frustrating to me when I was at Google. Google's security team ended up banning Slack access after several teams started expensing it.

It doesn't seem like building something that works well would be that hard; we've had nearly 40 years to learn from IRC, AIM, and others. Why can't I run my own chat client that does what I want? Oh, because you gotta lock people in. Sucks.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#80
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

It's not crazy, but it is much too soon. Think about GE going from lightbulbs to radios to alarm clock radios.
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