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Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#11
This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves!

If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#12
Why ask Anthropic?

Why not build on something better like Matrix? Or Signal?[0] Or even Keybase?

I really do agree we need to move away from Slack and Discord, but I'm also very confused why the call to action is to Anthropic. IMO we should really be pushing for open systems so that nobody can take it from us. Otherwise we repeat the cycle again and again. There's some good protocols to start on. I'd also say this is a good reason to make sure that the things you work on are hackable. It's how we combine different domains of expertise.

[0] see the Molly project, you don't have to use Signal's servers

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#14

A similar argument to OpenAI: https://www.latent.space/p/ainews-why-openai-should-build-sl...

Also true! The most important thing is that the NewSlacks commit to interoperability. I think Anthropic has a special opportunity to lead the way here, because they have a track record of standing by their principles to an extraordinary degree.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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post #5

"A slack that doesn't suck" doesn't exist, and whoever thinks Anthropic of all people are going to build that has no idea how this is going to work. Slack has massive lock in due to cross-organization connections. The only way you're going to get people off slack is to build a 10x better mode for collaboration than river of shit chat, and while such models probably exist, you also have to convince people that they ar…

How google hasn't been able to do this with messenger is beyond me.

The external partners on our slack are almost all logged in via gmail or other google workspace. We are on google workspace as well.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#16
post #6

Slack is in no way a great program (source: use it daily for work), but it seems to me that it works as intended, and developers can already extend it with bots/AI agents. Plus, Claude as an agent is already installable to Slack. For compliance, my company already has a tool that scrapes all slack messages, and archives them for a required amount of years. I'm at a small company, so I assume large corporations have a…

Slack is $45/user/month Soon you'll be able to write, host, and maintain a fully customizable version for probably 20k/month If you have a lot of employees this makes sense

What features are you using that the $18/user/month plan doesn't cover?

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#17
post #8

Just use one of the many chat products that doesn't have the same access limitations as Slack? Or, you know, Vibe code your own. People are so weird.

Or, you know, Vibe code your own.

Right. If these tools are so good (and they are) there should be numerous better-than-Slack apps by now that let you do exactly what you want. It doesn't take Anthropic to make it. (At our company, we cheated and edited 37signals' Campfire instead because we got sick of Slack's ads pushed into our paid instance.)

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#18
post #5

"A slack that doesn't suck" doesn't exist, and whoever thinks Anthropic of all people are going to build that has no idea how this is going to work. Slack has massive lock in due to cross-organization connections. The only way you're going to get people off slack is to build a 10x better mode for collaboration than river of shit chat, and while such models probably exist, you also have to convince people that they ar…

How google hasn't been able to do this with messenger is beyond me. The external partners on our slack are almost all logged in via gmail or other google workspace. We are on google workspace as well.

cries in google wave

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#19

Why ask Anthropic? Why not build on something better like Matrix? Or Signal?[0] Or even Keybase? I really do agree we need to move away from Slack and Discord, but I'm also very confused why the call to action is to Anthropic. IMO we should really be pushing for open systems so that nobody can take it from us. Otherwise we repeat the cycle again and again. There's some good protocols to start on. I'd also say this is…

Has Matrix improved the ease of use for folks to use it independently?

Mattermost, Rocketchat and others have first class packaging for quick and easy roll out.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#20
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

Claude Code could absolutely build a chat client in the hands of someone who could also build the rest around it.

Slack itself originally ran on irc servers as the back end, and I consider it a modern IRC implementation.

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