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Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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A lot of the posts that are saying something like "The judge didn't say that they couldn't do it like this!" are deliberately missing the point. In the UK, you are expected to comply with the spirit of such a court order, not just the letter of it. Try and pay a court fine with bins full of loose change and see what happens. It's entirely possible to be punished for contempt of court to a much greater extent than the…

In most jurisdictions, you are expected to comply with the spirit of a court order. Lawyers have some wiggle room when it comes to wordings, but it's a fine line between seeming clever and pissing the judge off.

>In most jurisdictions, you are expected to comply with the spirit of a court order.

In what country are you referring to?

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Not to mention that the original Macintosh GUI was a blatant copy of Xerox PARC, created after Jobs and a team of developers visited the PARC research lab. I don't blame them for this because I simply don't believe any design patents are legitimate, but the hypocrisy is astounding.

How many times. Jobs paid for the IP from Xerox. Check your facts. There probably are things Apple have stolen over they years, but this wasn't one of them.

Great. It's still a copy. Whether they paid for access to it or not is irrelevant - it's still a copy of someone else's innovation.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Apple tried to argue that it would take at least 14 days to put a corrective statement on the site – a claim that one judge said he "cannot believe".[1] Clearly the judge hasn't ever submitted an iOS app for review? And to people who don't understand why Apple are held to be in "non-compliance" despite copying verbatim the extract from the judgment: it was because of how "snarky" Apple were. - Saying their device is…

This episode is the childish and vindictive zenith of an amazing year of childish and vindictive behavior from Apple. Frankly I just don't get it. They make fantastic hardware and their software is usually at least good. Why do they have to lash out like a schoolyard bully at anybody that threatens to put the tiniest dent in their giant pile of cash money? Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselv…

When the authority (i.e. government) treats you like a child (i.e. outdated patent laws) then why should you act anything but childish?

Note - I do realize Apple should publicly take a stance on patent laws. I think they genuinely believe they are outdated.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Did you notice that the css class that controls the link size on the uk home page is called 'sosumi'?

Well spotted. Someone needs to draw attention to that.

Although its applied to all the links in the footer, not just that one. Still, interesting.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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> Having them pay a fine would have not changed anything, Apple has no money problem and they often do it in purpose... Supposedly, in the UK, Apple pays a £50/day fine rather than posting the required no-smoking signs in the windows of their stores. (I mention this as another example.) http://blog.lewisking.net/post/318110435/apple-store-madness

I can't find any reliable source for this claim. They range from "a friend who works in the Apple Store in Norwich"[1] to a "man who told it in the pub"[2] which makes me doubt its authenticity. [1] http://blog.lewisking.net/post/318110435/apple-store-madness [2] http://simonmorley.co.uk/2010/08/13/worlds-busiest-apple-sto...

(Hence why I said "supposedly"; the claim, however, is trivially falsifiable, and I have yet to see anyone attempt to argue with it, despite I having been been posted around a bit last year. I realize that does not make it true, again hence "supposedly". Even if it was true at one point, it might no longer be.)

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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> Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselves? The original iPhone was banned in South Korea for two years. It seems that this was to give South Korean companies a chance to catch up.

I can't find any reference to this. Could you point me at a source please?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125367616595333125.html

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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The UK is not a republic at all.

" non -banana republic"

I think Camillo is trying to point out that the UK is not a republic (banana or otherwise) but a Constitutional Monarchy.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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How many times. Jobs paid for the IP from Xerox. Check your facts. There probably are things Apple have stolen over they years, but this wasn't one of them.

Great. It's still a copy. Whether they paid for access to it or not is irrelevant - it's still a copy of someone else's innovation.

I doubt a patent attorney would consider that irrelevant, and it's not irrelevant when you're discussing corporate conduct.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention that the original Macintosh GUI was a blatant copy of Xerox PARC, created after Jobs and a team of developers visited the PARC research lab. I don't blame them for this because I simply don't believe any design patents are legitimate, but the hypocrisy is astounding.

How many times. Jobs paid for the IP from Xerox. Check your facts. There probably are things Apple have stolen over they years, but this wasn't one of them.

And Apple added a lot to the original.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Apple tried to argue that it would take at least 14 days to put a corrective statement on the site – a claim that one judge said he "cannot believe".[1] Clearly the judge hasn't ever submitted an iOS app for review? And to people who don't understand why Apple are held to be in "non-compliance" despite copying verbatim the extract from the judgment: it was because of how "snarky" Apple were. - Saying their device is…

This episode is the childish and vindictive zenith of an amazing year of childish and vindictive behavior from Apple. Frankly I just don't get it. They make fantastic hardware and their software is usually at least good. Why do they have to lash out like a schoolyard bully at anybody that threatens to put the tiniest dent in their giant pile of cash money? Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselv…

>Frankly I just don't get it

Apple is the biggest corporation on the planet, and hence has more to lose than anyone else. There are literally trillions of dollars on the line. This while doing business in an intensely competitive space and relying on an incredibly powerful, but fragile, branding strategy.

I don't like it, but I get it. And it's fascinating to watch.

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