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TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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As if. If people haven't stopped using TikTok with all of the other reasons for stopping, then because Ellison is damn sure not going to move the needle.

What were the other reasons for stopping?

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Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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DMs are akin to private conversations in real life. Thus, every DM feature should entail E2EE. It’s ok for a platform to not feature private conversations. They should just have no DM feature at all, then; make all messages publicly visible. Private conversations are indeed not for all ages. Parents should be able to grant access to that on individual basis.

You could have reasonable legal system where privacy is guaranteed. But you do not need end to end encryption for that to be thing. It really is orthogonal issue.

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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

TikTok has a drug-like effect on the brain. Multiple studies show a clear link between excessive TikTok engagement and increased levels of anxiety, depression, and stress. Maybe it is time we regulate it like a drug?

What do you mean exactly, tax it as a vice?!

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Age verification obliviates anonymity on the internet. If everything you do, _can_ be tracked by the government, it _will_ be. Allowing for more effective propaganda, electrol control, and lights a fire on the concept of a government _representing_ anyone.

Ok, and? Presenting your ID at a number of IRL estamblishments also heavily reduces anonymity

The difference is that IRL establishments don't sell off that data to anyone else, nor do they have the ability to collate that data with data from other establishments to make a profile of you.

(at least not yet)

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Brilliant. They're repackaging the argument governments have long made about E2EE being dangerous to children.

Children are just too effect of a tool when building a surveillance state. We should have banned children from owning open computers a long time ago just like we do with Alcohol, Driving licenses, etc. Instead children would own special devices that are locked down and tagged with a "underage" flag when interacting with online services, while adults could continue as normal. We already heavily restrict the freedom of…

Parents are already allowed to restrict their children access to 'dangerous' things like open computers or knives.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Children are just too effect of a tool when building a surveillance state. We should have banned children from owning open computers a long time ago just like we do with Alcohol, Driving licenses, etc. Instead children would own special devices that are locked down and tagged with a "underage" flag when interacting with online services, while adults could continue as normal. We already heavily restrict the freedom of…

Parents are already allowed to restrict their children access to 'dangerous' things like open computers or knives.

I don't think debazel was saying that children should have been banned from owning computers for the benefit of the children. He was saying that children should have been banned from owning computers so that the government would have no excuse to regulate what's allowed on computers.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

TikTok has a drug-like effect on the brain. Multiple studies show a clear link between excessive TikTok engagement and increased levels of anxiety, depression, and stress. Maybe it is time we regulate it like a drug?

Is that because of engaging with tiktok, or because of the content on tiktok? If the app was exclusively pictures of kittens and nice flowers you saw on your commute, would it have a detrimental effect?
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