Not related to this release, but their trade-in for old hardware is a joke to me. My 2019 MBP i9 2.4GHz w/64GB RAM and 2TB SSD is worth $200. It seems to me that they don't even want a trade-in; it makes much more sense to me to just keep the old MBP and use it as a dev server, home assistant, docker hub thing or something.
MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max
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I ran the qwen 3.5 35b a3b q4 model locally on a ryzen server with 64k context window and 5-8 tokens a second. It is the first local model I've tried which could reason properly. Similar to Gemini 2.5 or sonnet 3.5. I gave it some tools to call , asked claude to order it around, (download quotes, print charts, set up a gnome extension) even claude was sort of impressed that it could get the job done. Point is, it is…
Getting Opus to call something local sounds interesting, since that's more or less what it's doing with Sonnet anyway if you're using Claude Code. How are you getting it to call out to local models? Skills? Or paying the API costs and using Pi?
I just start llama.cpp serve with the gguf which creates an openai compatible endpoint.
The session so far is stored in a file like /tmp/s.json messages array. Claude reads that file, appends its response/query, sends it to the API and reads the response.
I simply wrapped this process in a python script and added tool calling as well. Tools run on the client side. If you have Claude, just paste this in :-)
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14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization seems rather small
On my 24GB RAM M4 Pro MBP some models run very quickly through LM Studio to Zed, I was able to ask it to write some code. Course my fan starts spinning off like the worlds ending, but its still impressive what I can do 100% locally. I can't imagine on a more serious setup like the Mac Studio.
what model were you using?
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yes pretty much this. make useless features use up resources and make basic scrolling slow. the Liquid Glass for example probably is not so great when it comes to resources. Probably works better with latest metal and hardware blocks on the GPU in M5 as opposed to using GPU cores and unified memory on 8gb M1 making latest macOS work not so great. I have the M1 8gb air and it is really slow on Tahoe. It was snappy jus…
I downgraded today for the first time in my life. Sequoia is crazy fast in my MacBook Air m2 16gb Not upgrading any of my Macs ever again. I was a fanboy looking for every new update like a present, for 13 years, not anymore. It took one Tahoe burn all that trust. Never upgrading major OS versions on hardware from Apple again.
Sequoia is 15. I still have my M1 Mini on Sonoma 14.5.
It keeps nagging me to update to Tahoe.
Oh ... I just checked, and I could update to 14.8.4. Maybe that's safe.
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You are right the touch screen is even more stupid
It’s not. I had a thinkpad with a touchscreen and while I used the touchscreen seldomly, it was useful in some applications. Notably to easily develop touch based applications. I have a M1 MacBook Pro with the touch bar since. It’s crap. I remember the keynote where they introduced it and a DJ mixed music using it. It was ridiculous that it got approved.
> Notably to easily develop touch based applications.
Ok, actually you're right, that's a use case where I'll agree it's probably useful. If you're writing iOS applications it might be nice to run it in Simulator and be able to do gestures without having to offload to your physical device for testing.
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> in fact Apple does bundle a power adapter with their laptops, just not on the cheapest models. Here in the UK, they no longer include the power adapter even with the top models. I just specced out a fully-loaded M5 Max Macbook Pro, 128GB RAM, 8TB storage on the Apple Store, and it doesn't include a power adapter by default. The 140W power adapter can be added as an option to the MacBook Pro for an additional £99 +…
>>Here in the UK, they no longer include the power adapter even with the top models That's incredibly stupid(of apple), I'm in the UK and literally got my M4 Max MacBook Pro delivered on Friday, it came with a power adapter.
Are you going to return it for an M5?
Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max
#679The most interesting change for the M5 Pro and Max is Apple moving to a bonded chiplet strategy from a single monolithic die. > The tech giant says the chips are engineered around its new Fusion Architecture, an advanced design that merges two dies into a single, high-performance system on a chip (SoC), which includes a powerful CPU, scalable GPU, Media Engine, unified memory controller, Neural Engine, and Thunderbol…
> The CPU now features six “super cores,” which is Apple’s term for its highest-performance cores, alongside 12 all-new performance cores. Before: "We have 6 performance cores and 12 efficiency cores" After: "We have 6 super cores and 12 performance cores" "Wow, how did you achieve this?" "We changed the names."
The M5 generation uses three different CPU core designs instead of two.
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#680Cool, make me one without MacOS