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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by simlevesque »

lastdong wrote: post #423
jbellis wrote: post #298

I chased down what the "4x faster at AI tasks" was measuring: > Testing conducted by Apple in January 2026 using preproduction 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M5, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 4TB SSD, and production 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD. Time to first token measured with an 8K-to…

14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization seems rather small

It's not much for a frontier AI but it can be a very useful specialized LLM.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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1123581321 wrote: post #387
swyx wrote: post #367

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> The battery is wearing out a bit, but it started out life with so much runtime that losing a few hours doesn't seem to matter. this is my exact opposite experience. my M3 Max from 2 years ago now has <2hrs battery life at best. wondering if any experts here can help me figure out what is going on? what should i be expecting?

What is your maximum capacity in Settings > Battery Health? What processes are running with significant CPU? What's the typical temperature of the laptop according to a stats app? (Temperature is a good proxy for general energy use.) I'm typing this on an M3 Max; its max battery capacity is 88%. I've got some things running (laptop average temp is 50-55C, fans off), screen is half brightness, and it's projected to go…

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Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by whynotmaybe »

jbellis wrote: post #298

I chased down what the "4x faster at AI tasks" was measuring: > Testing conducted by Apple in January 2026 using preproduction 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M5, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 4TB SSD, and production 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD. Time to first token measured with an 8K-to…

Quite interesting that it's now a selling point just like fps in Crysis was a long time ago.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by tedivm »

reenorap wrote: post #422
wincy wrote: post #12

I typed “RAM” to search for it and boy they hammer home how lucky I am to be getting 1TB SSD standard, but no mention of RAM anywhere on this page. Anyway, the MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of RAM. It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. Interestingly, 36-128GB models are showing as “currently unavailable” on the store page, and you can’t even place an order for them right now? But for anyone curious, it’s quoting $5099 fo…

The price hasn't changed between the M4 and M5. I honestly don't know how they did it. But I had a standing order for a maxed-out M4 (128 GB RAM, 2 TB drive) and the price is the same as the M5 so I cancelled my M4 order and will pre-order the M5 MAX instead.

Well, guess I was wrong about that.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

lastdong wrote: post #423
jbellis wrote: post #298

I chased down what the "4x faster at AI tasks" was measuring: > Testing conducted by Apple in January 2026 using preproduction 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M5, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 4TB SSD, and production 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air systems with Apple M4, 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 32GB of unified memory, and 2TB SSD. Time to first token measured with an 8K-to…

14-billion parameter model with 4-bit quantization seems rather small

On my 24GB RAM M4 Pro MBP some models run very quickly through LM Studio to Zed, I was able to ask it to write some code. Course my fan starts spinning off like the worlds ending, but its still impressive what I can do 100% locally. I can't imagine on a more serious setup like the Mac Studio.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by rgovostes »

sakopov wrote: post #429

What's a good value for a used MacBook pro these days? Any of the older models worth buying today?

It's hard to find any fault with the M1 models released 5 years ago. According to second-hand listings on Swappa, US$1200 would get you a capable M1 Max; the equivalent M5 Max is US$3600.

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by giancarlostoro »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #315
giancarlostoro wrote: post #92

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What are the other specs and how's your setup look? You need a minimum of 24GB of RAM for it to run 16GB or less models.

Tokens per second is abysmal no matter how much ram you have

Some models run worse than others but I have gotten reasonable performance on my M4 Pro with 24 GB of RAM

Re: MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max

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Post by reenorap »

tedivm wrote: post #435
reenorap wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The price hasn't changed between the M4 and M5. I honestly don't know how they did it. But I had a standing order for a maxed-out M4 (128 GB RAM, 2 TB drive) and the price is the same as the M5 so I cancelled my M4 order and will pre-order the M5 MAX instead.

Well, guess I was wrong about that.

No, that's not how it works at all. They still source all their RAM from Samsung, Hynix, Micron, etc.
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