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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by normie3000 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #298
drillsteps5 wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dived into a niche world of small phones recently while looking for replacement to malfunctioning Pixel 4a (which is apparently now considered compact phone). There's a few small manufacturers in China making some, with 4 inch or 5 inch screen, like Aiphor or Unihertz. And by "small" I mean "they use kickstarter to fund their R&D" small. Other than that... Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in t…

> Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in the US or in the rest of the world. Bummer. And the worst thing is that app developers do not bother with testing their apps on small phones. So even if someone would produce small phone, many apps would be broken on that UI. So there's no way back. PS 4 inch is not a small phone. iPhone 4S had 3.5" display and it wasn't small, it was normal. Small is someth…

> All modern phones including these "iPhone Minis" are egregiously huge.

Agreed - going from the original SE to the mini meant a big downgrade in usability for me, as it's now hard to reach the top of the screen.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by normie3000 »

ghiculescu wrote: post #334
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I just bought a refurbished SE. It works great with newest iOS, Liquid Glass, etc. Do it!

Which gen of SE?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by hs586 »

ajdude wrote: post #323
deaux wrote: post #320

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> Still holding onto my 13 mini. That's why they stopped making them, because the people who buy minis are willing to stick with them for 5 years, whereas Apple wants you to buy a new phone every year. Every single person I know who uses a phone of more than 4 years old, uses an iPhone 13 mini. Without exception. Now I'm sure there's plenty of HNers who use other 4+ year old phones, but I'm talking about non-tech peo…

> Every single person I know who uses a phone of more than 4 years old, uses an iPhone 13 mini That's because they haven't came out with another small iPhone in more than four years. Half the time when I'm home I still use my iPod touch because it's even smaller than the mini.

> That's because they haven't came out with another small iPhone in more than four years.

I kind of agree with the previous comment. I think if you spend a lot of time on the phone, have a lot of apps then it makes sense to upgrade your phone more frequently and also makes sense to have a larger screen and better battery life. So conversely, there is a correlation between people who have smaller phones and upgrade less frequently.

I have my iPhone 12mini for 5-6 years now, and I'd upgrade it now if there was a new small iPhone. But I would upgrade it 3 years ago.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by rrgok »

sephamorr wrote: post #276
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

The phones get larger and the UI gets less information dense every release. More padding, more offsets, more dead space.

Yeah, this is what bothers too much. Retina displays for low density content? We could've remained at 800x600.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by vishnugupta »

drillsteps5 wrote: post #291
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I dived into a niche world of small phones recently while looking for replacement to malfunctioning Pixel 4a (which is apparently now considered compact phone). There's a few small manufacturers in China making some, with 4 inch or 5 inch screen, like Aiphor or Unihertz. And by "small" I mean "they use kickstarter to fund their R&D" small. Other than that... Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore, in t…

> Nobody's really bothering with compact phones anymore,

They need to show all that ad somewhere right?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by devmor »

Telaneo wrote: post #189
devmor wrote: post #83

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I don’t think anyone should make fun of you for it but I’m in the opposite boat. I’m so glad that they make the pro max variants because most smartphones are so small that it hurts my fingers to bend them in the unnaturally inward way it requires to hold and interact with them.

It wouldn't be so bad if both options were available. By all means, have your giant pro max or whatever if you want, but that shouldn't be the only reasonable option.

I agree, and ideally neither should be tied to the phone’s technical specs.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by trvz »

danielvaughn wrote: post #61
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

You should look into grips that attach via Magsafe.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by izacus »

r0fl wrote: post #112
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

It always surprises me that the mini was ~1% of sales and yet the pro mini comments get so many upvotes

"1%" of the massive Apple base is still more phones than sales of iPhone 1, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and many others.

You do understand what a "percentage" means? And that there's a lot of people in the world, right? :)

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by RileyJames »

danielvaughn wrote: post #61
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I’m still running an SE2020. I was expecting the latest update (with liquid) to be the death of it. But performance has actually improved significantly! Very unexpected.

It’s been a great phone!

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by jesterson »

bytesandbits wrote: post #340
jesterson wrote: post #330

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Indeed. I have 16e from it's launch and can't be happier. Battery life is incredible while no issues with connections whatsoever (I am heavy traveler so can test it on multitude of telco hardware)

do you run two eSIMs when traveling and if so how is stability / battery life?

Always 2 SIM/esim running simultaneously. Compared to previous non-apple modem it's night and day battery-wise.

Didn't notice any issues with connection speed/stability.

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