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Post by Dylan16807 »

NoLinkToMe wrote: post #241
Dylan16807 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A technology doodad getting 25% cheaper in real terms over 15-20 years is about as far opposite as you can get from a hefty price drop.

Come on, the iPhone had: - no app store - no video recording at all - no copy/paste function - no selfie camera - no GPS Just to name a few. I won't even go into things like touch/faceID, wireless charging, iCloud, any form of water resistance etc. And then in terms of the specs on what it did have that got better, processor, memory, storage, screen quality, battery life, camera, it's all orders of magnitude better.…

It took about three years to get all the features in your bulleted list. It's been another fifteen and a half years since.

Touch/faceID is cheap, wireless charging is cheap, the free tier of iCloud is cheap, water resistance is cheap.

Yes the specs have increased a ton. When asking for a model under $500, the idea would be giving up some of those specs. And that's clearly possible; even low end phones these days are a zillion times better than an original iPhone.

And no I will not look at non-iPhone things when I'm evaluating whether iPhones underwent a hefty price drop. The cheapest iPhone these days is slightly cheaper than a first or second generation iPhone, and the best one is a lot more expensive.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by wongogue »

reed1234 wrote: post #299
rgovostes wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe Apple expected the 13 mini to be a hot seller; most people holding out for a small phone probably would have already bought the 12 mini just a year prior. The 13 mini was an incremental update -- basically just alleged camera improvements that I could not discern myself in a few minutes of testing.

As are most phone updates. If there was a market, it would have sold.

The standard screen size market is so big that every year there are enough people looking for an upgrade. Apart from enthusiasts or the fashion-minded, most people upgrade every 2-3 years.

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Post by ajdude »

deaux wrote: post #320
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

> Still holding onto my 13 mini. That's why they stopped making them, because the people who buy minis are willing to stick with them for 5 years, whereas Apple wants you to buy a new phone every year. Every single person I know who uses a phone of more than 4 years old, uses an iPhone 13 mini. Without exception. Now I'm sure there's plenty of HNers who use other 4+ year old phones, but I'm talking about non-tech peo…

> Every single person I know who uses a phone of more than 4 years old, uses an iPhone 13 mini

That's because they haven't came out with another small iPhone in more than four years.

Half the time when I'm home I still use my iPod touch because it's even smaller than the mini.

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Post by rahimnathwani »

rafaelmn wrote: post #92
kykat wrote: post #88

709 euro in Austria (828.89 us dollars), a 38% increase in price...

US prices don't include sales tax so 20% of that is VAT

VAT in Austria is 20%, so only ~16.7% of it is VAT.

Even if you subtract the VAT, iphones seem to be ~10% cheaper in the USA than in, say, the UK.

I wonder how much different factors contribute to this. I'm sure the stronger consumer protection laws are part of it.

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Post by wongogue »

alok-g wrote: post #303
paxys wrote: post #74

I'm happy for the existence of the e line mainly because it forces them to bump up the specs on the base iPhone. 17 is so good now that there's very little reason to get the 17 Pro.

Genuinely asking -- How about the camera? I keep hearing that camera is much better on 17 pro than 17 base. The OP article keeps saying camera on 17e is 'stunning', but again, I am waiting to find out how it compares with 17 pro.

At the moment, the camera is almost the main point of getting the Pro. And battery for the Pro Max.

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Post by Daz912 »

pibaker wrote: post #252
1970-01-01 wrote: post #6

$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?

> feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. This is just a free market for any product works. No? Why do software engineers ask for six digit salaries? Because they can get away with it — someone is willing to pay for it.

>Why do software engineers ask for six digit salaries? Because they can get away with it

No you see it's their RIGHT to demand an exorbitant salary – because that's 'what they're worth' and what the market will bear

Unfortunately they're less charitable when the shoe is on the other foot.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by jesterson »

wps wrote: post #26

I think the most valuable part of this “e” lineup is the in-house developed modem. The power and security benefits are probably enormous.

Indeed. I have 16e from it's launch and can't be happier. Battery life is incredible while no issues with connections whatsoever (I am heavy traveler so can test it on multitude of telco hardware)
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