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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Telaneo »

pibaker wrote: post #242
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208

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I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

I don't understand why are you downvoted. Are people in this thread really pulling out a laptop and trying to get it connected (or pay for one with a cellular modem) every time they need to respond two words to an email, call a uber or look up where is the nearest coffee shop that is open at an odd hour? HN seems to have some really weirdly prescriptive view of how people ought to use their devices in a way that is a…

> every time they need to respond two words to an email

I don't have my work email on my phone, and personal emails basically never need any actual response.

> call a uber

This is a few clicks and not a big ask regardless of the exact device. You can order an Uber regardless of screen size.

> look up where is the nearest coffee shop that is open at an odd hour?

Google Maps works fine on smaller screens. Ask me how I know.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by pibaker »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #6

$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?

> feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with.

This is just a free market for any product works. No?

Why do software engineers ask for six digit salaries? Because they can get away with it — someone is willing to pay for it.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Fezzik »

thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

I stupidly downgraded to a 17 from the 13 mini two-weeks ago and I hate it. It’s the first time I have been earnestly tempted to just get a dumb-phone and be done with it. The constant growth of mobile phones is perplexing to me but I don’t doubt Apple knows what sells.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by crossroadsguy »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #6

$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?

You asked for it. Now sit back and relish the ripe comments from fruitopologists.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Telaneo wrote: post #248
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #243

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Again, are you so much in the HN bubble you don’t realize that most people don’t wait to get home to their laptop (if they even have a laptop) to get things done in 2026? Is it really that hard to look at stats and realize that you might not be the normal one?

I'm sure they do it that way. I'm also not convinced there's any actual need to do it that way. You also didn't answer my question. Nothing in your travel scenario there, if I were in your shoes, would need me to use my phone for more than a few taps per actual task, while the rest of my phone use would go to mindless browsing or reading. What specific tasks are you imagining popping up here that I would then queue t…

Have you ever thought that the HNs crowd superiority complex above the “commoners” and unwashed masses may be unwarranted?

And no I’m not a young guy - my first computer was in 1986 in 6th grade…

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Post by pgalvin »

sentientslug wrote: post #230
alpaca128 wrote: post #106

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I have large hands but the 13 Mini is roughly the maximum I can use one-handed without doing the weird finger balancing act to shift the phone around. I get why most people like large phones - media consumption - but not everyone is into that. I don't even mind large phones if they're done right. My favorite phone of all time is the BB Passport which you have to use two-handed, but it was actually designed around tha…

Sorry but if that’s the case you definitely don’t have large hands. If you did you’d be able to use the Pro Max one handed and reach everything except the top left corner by swiveling your thumb (Reachability enables you to reach top left corner)

This depends entirely on how you hold your phone in your hand. For some positions, someone would need a 5” thumb to reach the corner. You can’t make such sweeping statements for something with such variation.

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

dehrmann wrote: post #240
apparent wrote: post #143

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Yeah, I wish they would commit to doing a mini every x years. Last year I bought a 16 and this year I bought an Air. I returned both after just a few days. I can't reach across the phone with my thumb, meaning I can't use it one-handed. The new phones have some neat tricks (satellite connectivity comes to mind), but the on-device AI seems pretty mediocre and I value pocketability and one-handed usability more than th…

> I wish they would commit to doing a mini every x years The problem is all the tooling is pipelined for annual releases. You can't just find a team to do the mini; it has to always be there, and parts of it have to always be working on the next one. Your vendors will get grumpy because it doesn't fit their product cycles.

This is true. But if they can afford it for the iPad Mini (my other favorite Apple product), then they should do it for the iPhone Mini.

an every-two-or-three year release cycle would be fine, ideal even

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Post by quesera »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #234
mattnewton wrote: post #226

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Is this really a driving factor for people? If I anticipate tasks that I can't wait to get back to a good work environment to do, I'll bring my laptop and tether on my phone. It's a fantastically more productive setup than trying to ssh in via a phone keyboard or even write a long email. 1 inch extra on the phone screen diagonal won't move the needle there for me.

Yes and even though you haven’t watched TV in 20 years ((c) Slashdot) people still watch TV. The feigned ignorance on HN that most normal people don’t pull their laptops out to do everything in 2026 is amazing

It's not feigned. I'm astonished to learn how hard people will work for the (seemingly to me) false convenience of doing things on their phone which would be (to me) much more straightforward to do on a more suitable device.

So I tend to assume that these stories are often the outliers, and that my personal experience is more common. I recognize the fallacy, and I suspect we're both wrong and we're both right. I just honestly don't know which one of us is more of which.

It probably devolves to a question of what kind of work we're talking about. The work that I do (or the way I do it), I do not believe could be done effectively on a phone or tablet, most of the time. I work with people whose work can be done there. And there are probably more of them that there are of me. But that does not mean I could become one of them.

(addressing your comment on another subthread): if music, camera, and web are a person's "work", then sure. But that does not resemble "work" for me in any way.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

mjmsmith wrote: post #250
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #232

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Just Thursday, I left home at 6AM got in an uber, waited at the airport got on a plane for an hour and half , waited at another airport, got on another plane for four hours, uber to the Airbnb and while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip we were taking during the summer. Are you suggesting that o just queue everything up until I set my laptop up? Again you realize you’re the odd one ri…

> while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip Were you out to dinner with your wife?

Yes, during our first night of our 45 day stay in another country and she got a text from someone she is meeting on the first leg of our trip during our summer 45 day domestic trip asking could we come 3 days earlier. We were looking at our calendar, our Hyatt points, flights etc. while enjoying live music and planning our next get away.

I’m sure you would have thought we should have waited to take out my laptop when we got back home.

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