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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by NoLinkToMe »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #167
gbear605 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking inflation into account, a $599 iPhone in 2026 would have been $380 in 2007. Given that the actual launch price in 2007 was $499, that's a pretty hefty drop.

A technology doodad getting 25% cheaper in real terms over 15-20 years is about as far opposite as you can get from a hefty price drop.

Come on, the iPhone had:

  - no app store
  - no video recording at all
  - no copy/paste function
  - no selfie camera
  - no GPS
Just to name a few. I won't even go into things like touch/faceID, wireless charging, iCloud, any form of water resistance etc.

And then in terms of the specs on what it did have that got better, processor, memory, storage, screen quality, battery life, camera, it's all orders of magnitude better. There really is no comparison.

I mean look at the price of a digital camera, music player etc, hell even external battery pack in 2007, with the same specs as the iPhone today, and you'll easily find support for using the words 'hefty price drop'.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by pibaker »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208
mattnewton wrote: post #152

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If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

I don't understand why are you downvoted. Are people in this thread really pulling out a laptop and trying to get it connected (or pay for one with a cellular modem) every time they need to respond two words to an email, call a uber or look up where is the nearest coffee shop that is open at an odd hour?

HN seems to have some really weirdly prescriptive view of how people ought to use their devices in a way that is almost like Steve jobs.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Telaneo wrote: post #235
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #232

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Just Thursday, I left home at 6AM got in an uber, waited at the airport got on a plane for an hour and half , waited at another airport, got on another plane for four hours, uber to the Airbnb and while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip we were taking during the summer. Are you suggesting that o just queue everything up until I set my laptop up? Again you realize you’re the odd one ri…

Is there anything you need to do during that time? Or are you looking to fill that time with whatever to keep you occupied and enjoy whatever? If it's the former, you lead a very different life from me. There are very few things in my life that show up and require immediate action (or action within 24-ish hours for that matter. Most things can wait). If it's the latter, I try to fill that time with reading.

Again, are you so much in the HN bubble you don’t realize that most people don’t wait to get home to their laptop (if they even have a laptop) to get things done in 2026?

Is it really that hard to look at stats and realize that you might not be the normal one?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by elephanlemon »

dilyevsky wrote: post #133
bubblewand wrote: post #96

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The physical home button is, no bullshit, one of the greatest pieces of UI ever. No, I am not kidding, I really think that. It’s crazy to me that they abandoned it, the gestures that replace its functionality are overall-worse and cluttering the gesture system with even more of them is bad for the overall UX.

Maybe you know this but it wasn't a physical button since i think iphone 7 - it was a haptic sensor.

The haptic sensor is almost as good as the physical button, and the trade off of not having to worry about it breaking (which was likely after a few years with the physical ones) is well worth it for me.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

strix_varius wrote: post #238
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #232

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Just Thursday, I left home at 6AM got in an uber, waited at the airport got on a plane for an hour and half , waited at another airport, got on another plane for four hours, uber to the Airbnb and while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip we were taking during the summer. Are you suggesting that o just queue everything up until I set my laptop up? Again you realize you’re the odd one ri…

You're being pretty defensive / aggressive about what some might call a phone addiction. Most on HN know the data: healthier people tend to enforce boundaries with their devices. The average person is addicted, yes, but I'm not sure being "the odd one" in an era of actually decreasing literacy and numeracy and attention span is the insult that you seem to think.

No I’m not living in some Luddite bubble. I am sure you’re also surprised that I’m not running Linux and using KDE Connect.

Again, look at the statistics..

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by andrewmutz »

danielvaughn wrote: post #61
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

Completely agree. And to make matters worse, I can't even switch to android without losing the ability to reliably send quality video to iPhone users.

Apple suffered for decades from Microsoft's anticompetitive OS monopoly, and turned around and did the same thing to the android ecosystem.

I have no idea why this sub is full of Apple fanboys. I was an Apple fan 10 years ago, but these days they no longer deserve your support.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

pibaker wrote: post #242
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection. My laptop has neither trait

I don't understand why are you downvoted. Are people in this thread really pulling out a laptop and trying to get it connected (or pay for one with a cellular modem) every time they need to respond two words to an email, call a uber or look up where is the nearest coffee shop that is open at an odd hour? HN seems to have some really weirdly prescriptive view of how people ought to use their devices in a way that is a…

And they probably are also surprised that I’m using an iPhone where I can’t use Docker and have JavaScript enabled on my browser.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Telaneo »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #243
Telaneo wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anything you need to do during that time? Or are you looking to fill that time with whatever to keep you occupied and enjoy whatever? If it's the former, you lead a very different life from me. There are very few things in my life that show up and require immediate action (or action within 24-ish hours for that matter. Most things can wait). If it's the latter, I try to fill that time with reading.

Again, are you so much in the HN bubble you don’t realize that most people don’t wait to get home to their laptop (if they even have a laptop) to get things done in 2026? Is it really that hard to look at stats and realize that you might not be the normal one?

I'm sure they do it that way. I'm also not convinced there's any actual need to do it that way.

You also didn't answer my question. Nothing in your travel scenario there, if I were in your shoes, would need me to use my phone for more than a few taps per actual task, while the rest of my phone use would go to mindless browsing or reading. What specific tasks are you imagining popping up here that I would then queue to my laptop?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by [deleted] »

nomilk wrote: post #170
mattnewton wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the task can’t be done in a few taps I feel I’m better off opening a laptop anyways. However the market agrees with you so I must be missing something. I used to think it was driven by media consumption on phones, and that I try to avoid, but this isn’t the first time I have heard people tout phone productivity gains from a slightly larger screen.

> I must be missing something I wouldn't assume that. The expression 'fat fingers' concerns the phenomena where users (including myself) lack the eyesight and finer motor skills required to type accurately on a small keyboard, so a slightly larger display makes all the difference. Perhaps you simply have those fine motor skills (and good eye sight) so a larger device isn't necessary to prevent typos and remain produc…

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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by mjmsmith »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #232
Telaneo wrote: post #219

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The things that require more than a few taps to do aren't things that need to be done at a moment's notice. Those things can wait until I'm at my laptop.

Just Thursday, I left home at 6AM got in an uber, waited at the airport got on a plane for an hour and half , waited at another airport, got on another plane for four hours, uber to the Airbnb and while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip we were taking during the summer. Are you suggesting that o just queue everything up until I set my laptop up? Again you realize you’re the odd one ri…

> while I was out to dinner that night, my wife and I were planning a trip

Were you out to dinner with your wife?

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