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Re: iPhone 17e

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SE 3rd gen here as my daily driver. Small form factor and Touch ID. The perfect iPhone IMO. Not looking forward to having to settle for those comically large phones with Face ID for my next one.

The thing I've come to like about FaceID on my 13 mini is that I can require it for certain apps to open that don't require it - e.g. messaging as opposed to banking which generally require some kind of auth by default - which is much better security in case someone snatches it out of my hand while it's unlocked. It's pretty seamless because I'm generally looking at the device anyway, and it's much less faff than it…

I think the way the Pixel does it is strictly better across the board. The fingerprint sensor doesn't sacrifice screen space, and the platform offers face unlock as well.

Re: iPhone 17e

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I don’t think anyone should make fun of you for it but I’m in the opposite boat. I’m so glad that they make the pro max variants because most smartphones are so small that it hurts my fingers to bend them in the unnaturally inward way it requires to hold and interact with them.

For me it's not the fingers, it's the eyesight.

Re: iPhone 17e

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SE 3rd gen here as my daily driver. Small form factor and Touch ID. The perfect iPhone IMO. Not looking forward to having to settle for those comically large phones with Face ID for my next one.

Same. Home button is sooo much better than swiping gestures

The physical home button is, no bullshit, one of the greatest pieces of UI ever. No, I am not kidding, I really think that. It’s crazy to me that they abandoned it, the gestures that replace its functionality are overall-worse and cluttering the gesture system with even more of them is bad for the overall UX.

Re: iPhone 17e

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I think the most valuable part of this “e” lineup is the in-house developed modem. The power and security benefits are probably enormous.

If the 17e had that chip, wouldn't it have Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 6? It has neither of those.

From the press release:

> iPhone 17e also features C1X, the latest-generation cellular modem designed by Apple

But the 17e iPhone seems to lack the Apple developed N1 chip that provides Wifi 7 + Bluetooth 6. So presumably they're using off the shelf components for Wifi and Bluetooth in the 17e.

Re: iPhone 17e

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> and double the starting storage at 256GB

Is massive storage on a mobile device really still a thing that's important?

I'm saying this as someone with 512GB, but I just checked and I'm using 85GB at the moment, including the OS.

Photos and videos are the likely reason why the phones have so much storage, but these days both apple and google offer decent cloud backup solutions which negates the need for massive on-device storage. I'd rather the storage be smaller, and the savings going toward more battery or whatever.

Am I the only one?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

SE 3rd gen here as my daily driver. Small form factor and Touch ID. The perfect iPhone IMO. Not looking forward to having to settle for those comically large phones with Face ID for my next one.

I "adapted" to losing the fingerprint reader.

Wow, it has a lot of unexpected downsides.

I've a lot of unexpected behavior from the faceid thing. Lots of unexpected swipe-ups that drop me out of an app and put me on the home screen. Can't unlock in the dark, too close to your face, off to the side, in your pocket. Lots of "I saw your face an unlocked" that I didn't know had happened.

fingerprint sensor unlocked when you wanted it to, with haptics. switching apps was a button operation, not happening when you didn't expect it.

Re: iPhone 17e

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> and double the starting storage at 256GB Is massive storage on a mobile device really still a thing that's important? I'm saying this as someone with 512GB, but I just checked and I'm using 85GB at the moment, including the OS. Photos and videos are the likely reason why the phones have so much storage, but these days both apple and google offer decent cloud backup solutions which negates the need for massive on-de…

I don't think it's inherently impossible, but Apple at least seems to do a really poor job at local cache management on iOS for Photos and Messages attachments. I am constantly amazed to find my non-tech-savvy relatives deleting stuff from their phones to free up local storage.
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