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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by szszrk »

backscratches wrote: post #139
szszrk wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the one. and of course they do and I'm super happy to hear about that partnership. I highly recommend checking them out! A year ago I got a "10 month old flagship" Moto, after research. For half the price of top Samsung that was available locally at the moment in stores, I got: - Worse, but still really great CPU (Snapdragon 8s gen3 instead of "non-s" for Samsung) - faster storage (UFS 4.0) - more RAM (16G…

Its frustrating that some motorola flagships dont do video out

Exactly the catch I mentioned. This should be present by default on any model, especially that under the brand of Lenovo (also partialy by Motorola, as I understand) they sell ~250 phones meant for business while specifically targeting that functionality (with matching monitors, I think they can do some sort of monitor buil-in webcam sharing, even).

Several phones downgraded in this regard, even going to usb2.0, like Fairphone :/

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Post by raffael_de »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

and a 4 to 5 inch display ...

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Post by victorbjorklund »

sfdlkj3jk342a wrote: post #166
amelius wrote: post #156

But where is the EU? They should be funding FOSS like they are funding science.

I don't think the EU wants FOSS phones. If anything they'll push regulations that make them illegal to own. They want backdoors for all of your communication.

I think you are talking about Trump and Palantir. That is more US thing.

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Post by gib444 »

szszrk wrote: post #206
gib444 wrote: post #203

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> A year ago I got a "10 month old flagship" Moto, Model name?

it's edge 50 ultra it's hilarious how this was considered by "youtubers" an outdated model when I was buying it.

Thanks! Looks decent (60 Pro does too)

> youtubers

marketers ;)

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Post by neya »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

This is just developer fantasy. The average consumer doesn't care even one bit. Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years?

Go to some developing countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features when buying a phone vs developed ones. The developing countries account for most of the sales of most phone manufacturers. Phones that are like $150-200 sell like hot cakes.

This is evident even in the laptop segment. What developers want and what the average consumer wants/needs are two different things. Eg. Framework laptops. Macbook Pro vs Air.

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Post by Tade0 »

wolvoleo wrote: post #164
Tade0 wrote: post #101

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I was hoping more banks would introduce support for U2F. In Europe ING was one of the first if not the first, but so far few followed.

That's for logging into the app. What I mean is using NFC for payments. I have ING but they also moved away from supplying their own NFC payments in favour of using Google Play, sadly.

I checked and I can set one of my banks as the "default wallet app". I guess there are still some holdouts left.

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Post by raffael_de »

holgerschurig wrote: post #196
sfdlkj3jk342a wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the EU wants FOSS phones. If anything they'll push regulations that make them illegal to own. They want backdoors for all of your communication.

You have a very narrow view of the EU. The EU isn't a single body, dictated by some common mind. We have the EU Parliament, the EU Council, the EU Commission. Often they have different views in itself (e.g. factions in EU Parliament, or commissars in the commission that are more end-user-friendly vs. ones that are move business-friendly). And the EU Council (the ring of head-of-member-states) is more often than not j…

as long as the EU is headed by a woman who habitually loses SMS messages negotiating billion euro deals i figure the assessment you question is spot on.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by strcat »

Markoff wrote: post #79

how safe is Chinese Lenovo with closed sourced firmware? btw. Motorola has absolutely trash cameras, doubt GrapheneOS will change anything about it unless you put there gcam maybe, this is significant downgrade from Pixel cameras btw. yes, it looks like vanilla Android, though it is not, my mother bought it after mine recommendation (previously used Xiaomi phones) and can't say the ROM would be particularly good

> how safe is Chinese Lenovo with closed sourced firmware?

iPhones and Pixels are manufactured in China. Anything we could support is realistically going to be made in China right now.

It's planned for GrapheneOS to have access to the internal code including firmware. Supporting the subset of their future devices meeting the GrapheneOS requirements isn't going to work the same way supporting Pixels does.

> btw. Motorola has absolutely trash cameras, doubt GrapheneOS will change anything about it unless you put there gcam maybe, this is significant downgrade from Pixel cameras

Motorola Signature (2026) and Motorola Razr Fold (2026) are ranked one above the Pixel 10 Pro XL on https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/. It's 2027 and later devices which are relevant though.

> btw. yes, it looks like vanilla Android, though it is not, my mother bought it after mine recommendation (previously used Xiaomi phones) and can't say the ROM would be particularly good

There's no Android OEM shipping vanilla Android. Each one has their own forks of it. Vanilla Android doesn't include Google Mobile Services.

The stock OS is an entirely separate thing from GrapheneOS. Unlike Pixels, we won't need to use the stock OS to obtain firmware and other non-kernel device support code which isn't included in AOSP.

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Post by omneity »

linker3000 wrote: post #74
roysting wrote: post #41

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> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

The Motorola phones are generally good performers and value for money. My only gripe is that they cannot have their batteries replaced easily - even by phone repair shops. I understand that this is because you have to disassemble / un-glue the phones through the front and remove the display. For this reason, the repair shops I have asked have said they don't 'do' Motorola phones because there's too much risk in break…

Or your willingness to put up with power banks.
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