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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by roysting »

anon5739483 wrote: post #9

GrapheneOS is finally decoupling itself from Google Pixel phones. This is great news. Motorola makes great hardware too. Looking forward to see what comes out of this.

> Motorola makes great hardware too

Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

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Post by karel-3d »

nunobrito wrote: post #40

So they shaked hands with a long term NSA hardware contractor: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/na... Fantastic. Very secure.

Isn't this Lenovo, a different thing from Mororola Solutions?

edit: yeah it's a different Motorola. Unrelated companies in 2025. Android Motorola is owned by Lenovo, it's a Chinese brand

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

ggm wrote: post #29

Will the sandboxed google play permit banking apps to work using TPM and secured credentials? Is it even possible to store secure credentials properly? I would expect whatever you initialised before grapheneOS is wiped before you can run the alternate OS. Is termux possible with a root/sudo function?

My banking app works fine on GrapheneOS today, but not every banking app does. If it depends on Google Play Integrity with strong integrity it won't because Google has successfully sold the blatant anti-competitive lie that you need to vendor lock-in your users to their OS to get security on mobile.

Secured credentials work fine, everything works fine except stuff that by design is locked in to Google like Google Pay.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by user_7832 »

roysting wrote: post #41
anon5739483 wrote: post #9

GrapheneOS is finally decoupling itself from Google Pixel phones. This is great news. Motorola makes great hardware too. Looking forward to see what comes out of this.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

> I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild

Probably depends a lot on where you live tbh. Here in India it's moderately common. I think Europe and Latin America also have a fair amount of sales.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by fc417fc802 »

10729287 wrote: post #19

Back in the days, I switched from Iphone 3G to Motorola Defy in order to benefit from more customisation. I'm now back into Apple ecosystem since iPhone 6, actually on iPhone 13 but i'm very tempted by GrapheneOS. Going back to Motorola would please me, as I loved this little Defy. Do you think there's any chance to have RCS messages without Google involved ? I want group messages without having to install Whatsapp a…

> I want group messages without having to install ...

Well now I'm confused. I've always received SMS as fallback when my contacts add me to RCS group messages. But apparently this doesn't always work according to people on the internet at large?

Unfortunately most people still think they're "texting" and have no idea Google and Apple pulled a bait and switch. Meanwhile on my end I receive emoji react spam, each emoji as an independent message, in an incredibly verbose form that quotes the entire message.

It's simultaneously misleading people, a DoS against non-BigTech clients, and monopolistic. The mobile ecosystem just keeps getting worse and there's no sign of regulations fixing it any time soon.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

phoronixrly wrote: post #11
zx8080 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same owner (Google/Alphabet): https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/company-annou...

I was going to ask wasn't motorola bought and sold so many times that it ended up in Chinese hands. It ended up in Google's hands instead... Ngl, kind of underwhelming from Graphene Edit: wait, that's old news, it is part of Lenovo...

Thinkpads are also part of Lenovo and is technically Chinese. But see, which device is recommended for privacy purposes the most because of Libreboot/Coreboot and how much respected thinkpads are in the privacy minded community.

Can't believe I am saying this but a chinese company can be good and an american company can be bad.

Not an exact fan of china, especially their authoritarianism but I am not a fan of america right now either.

For what its worth, a lot of American phone companies also use chinese factories or chinese components and assemble them in India or Vietnam (Apple) and then say that we are making phones in India which while true, isn't the most accurate picture but it keeps the masses happy.

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