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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by dmos62 »

pentae wrote: post #98
agile-gift0262 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is also ths reason why I migrated my parents from Motorola to Pixel. Well… that and the amount of bloatware and ad notifications a new Motorola I bought had. I returned it inmediatelly, and it's then when I went for Pixels.

Still a bold move considering the increased malware on android devices vs ios. My parents would have their banking information stolen within 6 months

70% of the world runs on Android. Do you think they get their banking information stolen every 6 months?

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by zelphirkalt »

roysting wrote: post #41
anon5739483 wrote: post #9

GrapheneOS is finally decoupling itself from Google Pixel phones. This is great news. Motorola makes great hardware too. Looking forward to see what comes out of this.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

I still have 2 Motorola phones here. One > 12y old and one even older. The > 12y old one can still be used for calls and maps and so on, is just a bit slow these days. The even older one would be painfully slow and probably only able to use 1 or 2 apps at a time, but I am using it as a music player. Both phones still just work. Based on this Motorola seems to have made great phone hardware.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by Aachen »

user_7832 wrote: post #45
roysting wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

> I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild Probably depends a lot on where you live tbh. Here in India it's moderately common. I think Europe and Latin America also have a fair amount of sales.

Netherlands. The only people I know with a Motorola phone are from overseas (either living overseas or moved here). Definitely more known in the anglosphere than in the Netherlands, but they're in stores and being sold, just not as strong a brand. Probably most people wouldn't know it, similar with e.g. Oppo

When selecting a new phone, I always just put in the specs I want and then consider all options, so I have been aware that they're selling here but so far they never made the cut for me. I think the issue is usually that they're made for giants, or it's one of these screen curved edge devices that you can't pick up without touching something on the screen side

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by froh42 »

b112 wrote: post #68
mnmalst wrote: post #55

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I am exited as well but the OS is only one part of the equation. If the firmware BLOBs don't get updates we still have a problem. I really hope this cooperation means that Motorola commits to longer support for gOS devices.

And the radio firmware. From a phone by a Chinese company. Unless GrapheneOS handles the radio firmware, not really interested.

What's the difference compared to a phone with a radio firmware by a US company?

In both cases it's something closed and the government has shown overreach. (Yes, China a lot more than the US, but still ... things are not looking good a the moment. And I have no more trust, even if the political direction changes for a presidency period or two.)

But yes, ultimately we want open source firmware. Still, then there could be hardware backdoors anyways ...

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by backscratches »

Fantastic news, Motorola is known for prioritizing DC dimming on their screens, which many report significantly reduces eye strain [1]. I was never aware of the issue, I thought my switch to an OLED phone (iPhone xs) just coincided with getting older and normal tired eyes of aging. But when I switched to a pixel phone my eyes began blurring and aching to an extent I started to research a bit and found that the pixel screens had extremely low Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) rate for screen dimming, apparently as a cost saving measure, and eye strain was a common complaint. I do not experience anything like it with desktop/laptop IPS screens.

A 4" flip phone with graphene would be so nice.

[1] https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/best-phones-for-pwm-fl...

(I am reposting from leak past yesterday)

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

sznio wrote: post #129
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #115

Wait... so the supposedly most secure mobile OS will only be able to run on either a Google phone or a Chinese phone? Yes, Motorola Phones is Chinese.

it's a subsidiary of Lenovo. a lot of security minded people love their ThinkPads. out of all the chinese corpos, Lenovo is the one I distrust the least.

Doesn't matter to my point if security minded people love their ThinkPads. A lot of things that people love either irrational attachment to a brand, or habit or just copying the habits of those like you. Every time there's a security attack a lot of security people are victims too. They're not immune just because they have those jobs.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by agile-gift0262 »

pentae wrote: post #98
agile-gift0262 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is also ths reason why I migrated my parents from Motorola to Pixel. Well… that and the amount of bloatware and ad notifications a new Motorola I bought had. I returned it inmediatelly, and it's then when I went for Pixels.

Still a bold move considering the increased malware on android devices vs ios. My parents would have their banking information stolen within 6 months

Luckily, they never install anything, and they send me a screenshot whenever they get a notification, email or SMS they didn't expect.

Honestly, I do regret not having given them iPhones when they still had the cognitive ability to learn new user interfaces. iOS UI, on its most basic, default form, has remained stable except for cosmetic changes and the move away from the home button. Also UI is generally quite consistent between apps. Android on the other hand, keeps changing and varies wildly depending on the manufacturer and generation.

Now it's too late for them to learn new UI paradigms, so I'm stuck with near-vanilla Android flavours.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by backscratches »

b112 wrote: post #68
mnmalst wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am exited as well but the OS is only one part of the equation. If the firmware BLOBs don't get updates we still have a problem. I really hope this cooperation means that Motorola commits to longer support for gOS devices.

And the radio firmware. From a phone by a Chinese company. Unless GrapheneOS handles the radio firmware, not really interested.

I dont think grapheneos handles radio firmware on pixels, radios also not made in the US. I wonder if even apple does, as their radios are also not made in US.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by backscratches »

szszrk wrote: post #97
roysting wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

That's not the one. and of course they do and I'm super happy to hear about that partnership. I highly recommend checking them out! A year ago I got a "10 month old flagship" Moto, after research. For half the price of top Samsung that was available locally at the moment in stores, I got: - Worse, but still really great CPU (Snapdragon 8s gen3 instead of "non-s" for Samsung) - faster storage (UFS 4.0) - more RAM (16G…

Its frustrating that some motorola flagships dont do video out

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by nunobrito »

omnimus wrote: post #109
nunobrito wrote: post #86

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Go ahead and trust them. I won't.

I would like to know what kind of phone you are using.

At the moment this model: https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-... with a modified Android based on LineageOS.

Connects to the world using GSM and radio using satellites throught https://geogram.radio

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