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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Hmm the one thing I'm kinda missing with grapheneos is mobile payments. The banks here in Europe used to have their own nfc apps but in my country they've all moved to Google wallet :( or Samsung pay.

I don't want Google monitoring my payments so I'm using Samsung now but I'd love to have something more open for this.

I was kinda hoping the partner would be Samsung so they might collaborate on a payment system too. I don't think Motorola has anything like that.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

#82

Hopefully wireless payment do work on these, and they have face unlock working. That's really the 2 issues I have with grapheneos. I know it's supposed to be for privacy nerd, and they will tell you you shouldn't use Google pay because it's bad for privacy and so on... But it's not the majority of people, most are willing to trade some privacy for convenience.

Here it's Google not wanting to certify GrapheneOS I think, despite their valuable contributions to the AOSP.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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post #58

I really hope that the partnership involves support for low-end devices and not only high-end ones. Would be great to have a €200 Phone running GrapheneOS (e.g. G56)

I guess it's rathet hard to satisfy GrapheneOS requirements in 200 bucks budget. Things like at least 5 years of updates.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

#84

This was figured out a while ago based on the hints given. That said, I'm pretty excited. Motorola of the last decade or so has made really good hardware with basically stock firmware and a terrible update policy, which is why many avoid them. Seriously, they just offer quarterly updates on flagships, which is incredibly unsecure. Punting software to Graphene solves the biggest gripe many have.

That is not what I experience on ThinkPhone. I get monthly security updates for about two years now.

Maybe it is an exception? I'm in EU if that matters.

And Motorola is almost free of bloatware. It is practically a stock Android.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they? I genuinely don’t know because I don’t think I have ever seen a Motorola smartphone in the wild and their heavy involvement with the police and surveillance state has my attention piqued a bit. I’m just saying GrapheneOS partnering with possibly the biggest police state surveillance solutions provider? What’s that all about?

I bought a Motorola phone (G Stylus 2025) while in the US after discovering my brand new Sony Xperia VII phone would not work in upstate NY. It's a great device, I loved using it. It had features I specifically wanted (still has a 3.5mm jack, a microSD slot, and wireless charging). It also looks fantastic with their Pantone colours, and it feels more comfortable than my Xperia VII. There's a wired fast charge feature…

Direction pointing seems to be pretty bad in any built up area (on my iPhone and my wife’s Pixel). I suspect that they are relying on accurate GPS for it combined with the magnetic compass. Both of which are a bit hit and miss when you are surrounded by tall steel framed buildings.

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#86

So they shaked hands with a long term NSA hardware contractor: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/newsroom/press-releases/na... Fantastic. Very secure.

Motorola Mobility vs Motorola Solutions. Different companies. Different owners. Different nationalities.

Go ahead and trust them.

I won't.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

eww lenovo -> lenovo owns motorola. lenovo is a trash company that ships shitware, even in their firmware, there is shitware see what you made us do google -> this event is a direct result of google's rug pull of support for pixel devices google/trump2 -> the current admin is linked to attempts to curtail people's control of their hardware

Could you expand on the firmware stuff? Do they have bad practices on the firmware?

Not sure If this is what they're referring to, but 10 years ago Lenovo shipped low-end laptops with pre-installed adware called Superfish that also compromised the HTTPS certificate chain:

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2015/02/20/lenovo-su...

Pretty terrible, but it was never on the high-end laptops, and plenty of HN folks are running Lenovo ThinkPads anyway.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

#88

This was figured out a while ago based on the hints given. That said, I'm pretty excited. Motorola of the last decade or so has made really good hardware with basically stock firmware and a terrible update policy, which is why many avoid them. Seriously, they just offer quarterly updates on flagships, which is incredibly unsecure. Punting software to Graphene solves the biggest gripe many have.

That is not what I experience on ThinkPhone. I get monthly security updates for about two years now. Maybe it is an exception? I'm in EU if that matters. And Motorola is almost free of bloatware. It is practically a stock Android.

not any longer. My edge 70 required weeks to uninstall bloatware, taboola and all that crap. Eventually settled with netguard to kill any non approved outgoing connection. It has been a real pain. Changed my view on moto completely. I have been a happy user of a Motorola one for 6 years...

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

#90

Hopefully wireless payment do work on these, and they have face unlock working. That's really the 2 issues I have with grapheneos. I know it's supposed to be for privacy nerd, and they will tell you you shouldn't use Google pay because it's bad for privacy and so on... But it's not the majority of people, most are willing to trade some privacy for convenience.

Google Pay only works on device/OS combos that have the specific blessing from Google. Only google can make it work.
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